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Art of Manliness: 10 Ways To Be A Gentleman At The Gym

  • Tyler @ Building Camelot · 1 year ago
    #11. Don't dress like a creep and/or a douche bag.

    Great list and number 10 is the best out of the bunch!
  • Kate McKay · 1 year ago
    Note to the guys from a lady’s perspective: Sometimes when I go to the gym all the barbells and machines are loaded up with 45 lb plates. Perhaps guys leave these plates on with the idea that any man worth his salt is going to use them as well. But many women also use these machines, even the squat rack. I’m not a weakling, but it’s tough to remove and re-rack those big 45 lb plates. So be kind to the ladies, gents, always re-rack your weights.
  • Cameron Marshall · 1 year ago
    On #10, I know (I think) youre kidding, realizing that hip abductors and adductors are some of the most important stability muscles in your body, helping in everything from running, martial arts, etc. And since I'm not in a gym, I didnt break rule #8!
  • Kevin · 1 year ago
    Re: #10: Uh, yeah... 'cause manly men are born without adductors and abductors. Silly.
  • Brett · 1 year ago
    @Kevin and Cameron-Using machines that target one small muscle at a time and make you do movements you would never do in real life are a total waste of time. While I called out the hip abductor machine for special criticism, the leg extension and leg curl machines are also silly. The hip machines are especially dumb because they don't really even work the muscles they are supposed to and can cause overuse injuries of the piriformis muscle.There are other ways to work the same muscles using exercises that strengthen the whole area and supporting muscle groups.
  • LtCook · 1 year ago
    I agree with the hip adductor/abductor machines. Instead of using those, you can usually fit your foot into a cable handle and use one of the cable machines for the same movement. Or just do squats and deads...

    There is a time and place for direct isolation work, just not very often.
  • Captain Obvious · 1 year ago
    What an utterly chauvanist cowardly opinion
    ~inside/outside thigh machines are girly~

    TRY FREESTYLING A MOTOCROSS BIKE WITHOUT THOSE MUSCLES, m*r*n.

    How utterly offensive:
    since the mere *suggestion* that you might be feminine is so profoundly *demeaning* to you,
    you can't value woman as person,
    can you?

    Your balls disappear when someone holds
    slightly-pink/magenta cloth near you?

    Many women have commented on this, and finally I "get" it,
    and see it, when "my kind" are doing it:
    Grow Up.
    If *I* can, *anyone* can.

    Try reading "Counting for nothing"
    a book about just what men really value woman as...

    Try reading "Women's Ways of Knowing"
    by 4 psychologist women with both brains & guts.

    And TRY freestyling a 250lb-400lb bike with weak thigh muscles,
    and see if having it land on your head more frequently
    makes *you* feel more manly, or more idiotic.
    ( & if you are offended by "practice" and "training" and "study" as too girly, then maybe get a Darwin Award doing a loop wrong?
    .. at least it'd be *earned* )

    --

    Posted under a Nom de Plume, because it is the ISSUE that matters, not the "names".

    (c) 2008 Captain Obvious

    ( yes, copyright still applies with a Nom de Plume )
  • Jeff · 1 year ago
    Squat and deadlift will give you very strong thighs. The point is not that the abductor machine is girly it is that both men and women would benefit more from free weights. Since men tend to focus on strength more than women in their workouts (men and women in general this doesn't apply to everyone) they are more responsible for doing things the right way.
  • Brett · 1 year ago
    @Captain Obvious-You may want to spend less time toning those thighs and more time learning how to put together a coherent comment.

    As Jeff said, it's not that there is something intrinsically girly about the abductor machine. But the fact is that I've never, ever seen a really fit man using it, and the only ones I have seen using it are female. Most are operating under the erroneous assumption that you can "spot reduce" your trouble spots. No man should labor under this delusion. But hey if it helps you with motocross then more power to you.
  • Miguel Wickert · 1 year ago
    Well done, now that's what I like to see! I try to pass these principles on to others. I'm going to mention this list in a blog post sometime this week.
  • Kyle A. Koyote · 1 year ago
    Gentlemen should squat and dead lift, not use hip machines. My two cents. Machines are way overrated. People need to realize that machines will never, ever replace lifting barbells and dumbbells. Machines are safer during the exercise, but they are not better. Machines are better at bodybuilding, yes, but getting strong? Improving athletic performance? No they aren't better.
  • Kevin (ReturnToManliness) · 1 year ago
    Brett is right on with his comments. Captain obvious is insane.

    Brett, don't get pulled into the gutter. Your list is great, but cut some slack of the folks who have cell phones. Us men nowadays have plenty of multi-tasking efforts going on and sometimes we need to take a call. It's how you handle the call and respect others around you that matters most. Leave the area of others and DON'T do it on the treadmill unless something is massively urgent and then the good man would get off the phone and apologize to the folks around him for goofing up their workouts.

    1,2 6 and 8 all should be punishable by cutting off a pinky or something. I know it sounds harsh but so are the offenses. The same ones doing this are the same ones that think #7 is a sport. I like to look at the talent like any other guy, but "get in, get out, and go home" should be the mantra.
  • paul uk · 1 year ago
    *Don’t give unsolicited advice*
    in the gym, and everywhere else!

    *Leave the cell phone in the car*
    who are these arseholes who walk around with bluetooth headsets all the time? idiots who dont want phone waves affecting their brain, so put the phone in their pocket next to their testicles!
  • Nouman · 1 year ago
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  • Brian · 1 year ago
    #11 DON'T WORK OUT IN FRONT OF THE DUMBBELLS!
  • Yi · 1 year ago
    Caption Obivous sound girl enough. Whining like that.
  • Al · 1 year ago
    perfect. Just #10 honestly makes no sense, there aren't male or female muscles and abductors can be a great boost for leg press. I don't use those machines often actually, and I do agree they look girlish - yet they are a great leg complement anyway. I'd drop #10, or why not add #11: don't train gluteus unless you're gay? lol

    But from 1 to 9, tyhey are just perfect!
  • mease grunkey · 1 year ago
    Most of you a fully in love with your own opinions.
  • Brett McKay · 1 year ago
    Okay, I added number 10 primarily for some comic relief, but people seem to be taking it super seriously. I didn't know people are so uptight about the hip abductor machine.
  • Markus · 1 year ago
    I like your list but #10 is complete nonsense
  • Brett McKay · 1 year ago
    @ Markus- Come back when you have a sense of humor.
  • Chad · 1 year ago
    No singing online with your ipod.
  • nicole · 1 year ago
    yea as for #7
    it's the number one reason I stopped going to the gym, and it's absolutely right. We're there to work out, not to pick up gross sweaty guys. Oh, and your bacne from the rhoids? yea, we can spot that a mile away and we know exactly what it is and what it's from.
    Plus, we wear spandex because it's comfortable. It's not an invite to follow us all over the gym and stare constantly.

    And, the girly machines stereotype is very ignorant. I'm a girl, and I use mostly freeweights when I workout. I don't use "girly" machines, because most of them are useless for me, it's not like i'm obligated to use them because i'm a woman and it's not like you shouldn't use them because your men.
  • Rick · 1 year ago
    Love the list!

    BTW, I laughed at #10. I thought it was funny.
  • SoyNinja · 1 year ago
    I'm going to have to agree with the other people and say that the "girly machines" are not girly. Personally I think a more prominent unmanly issue I see at the gym is those awful short shorts guys are wearing. Some guys at the gym also seem to think it's the 80's.
  • Jay · 1 year ago
    I'm not surprised that the SoyNinja doesn't think those machines are girly.There's nothing more girly than eating estrogen producing soy. Stick with whey protein boys.
  • Smacky · 1 year ago
    Ignore rule #7. Women initiate flirting with me all the time at the gym, so fair is fair. There's nothing wrong with a friendly "hello". You can tell by her response whether she's interested or not. I'll agree that you shouldn't treat the gym like a meat market, but a real man meets women wherever he finds them.

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  • Ethan · 1 year ago
    a weight machine is "girly" to a man who is insecure in his own manhood.
  • Brett McKay · 1 year ago
    @Smacky- First, I've never been to your forum. Second, I don't see the similarity. Third, I find it laughable that you presume we copied you just because we created a list of common sense gym etiquette rules. Google "gym etiquette." You're not the only one who has created such a list. Did these people copy you, too? Probably not because your list doesn't even show up in the search results.
  • dadshouse · 1 year ago
    My Cali workout tip of the week - cycle and run outdoors, instead of hitting the gym. Vitamin D is good for you! Plus, if you find a good running trail, there are hottie women galore. It's totally fine chatting up another runner or cyclist. 10K races and half-marathons are great places to meet fit women.
  • santa · 1 year ago
    Great list. Here are some I would add.
    11. Don't start shouting "C'mon harder man, push harder!" when spotting another guy... in fact don't say anything.
    12. Don't take your shirt off and sweat all over the equipment while leaving your chest and back hairs everywhere. (I've seen guys do this while I was college.)
    13. Do not wear flip flops in the gym. I saw a guy wearing crocs one time and that would count as flip flops. In fact no man should ever be wearing crocs.
    14. Keep profanity on the down low. I don't care how much you can or can't lift. Swearing won't make you lift more.
    15. Wash your gym clothes regularly. Working out next to Mr. Armpit Odor is not fun.
  • MaCayn · 1 year ago
    I hope the joke regarding #10 extended to your comment regarding leg extension/leg curl. While you shouldn't only do those, they hit the muscle differently than other exercises. Follow squats or leg press with leg extensions to emphasize different heads of the quad. Follow good mornings or deadlift which use the hamstring help straighten the body with leg curls that work the hamstring by bending the leg.

    Not trying to break rule #8, but its important to distinguish between using only leg extension/leg curl and using them to completely work the muscle
  • Jaye · 1 year ago
    No 'MAN' has to bother himself with listing such an idiotic reference to 'girlie' machines. If a person wants to use a particular machine for a particular purpose, and has reason to do so, then those who are chastising him for it are childish and not 'MEN'.
  • Kate · 1 year ago
    Who are all these guys passionately defending the hip abductor machine? I have never in my life (and I've belonged to a gym for years) seen a man use one. Do they come in really late or early so no one sees them? I mean it's just one point among many good ones, stop getting so hung up on it.
  • Jon · 1 year ago
    Just wanted to tell Captain Obvious he is:

    1) Taking the internet too seriously
    2) Probably gay
    3) In terrible need of a good set of squats and then a good, old fashioned closed-fist beating
    4) Taking HIM(her?)SELF wayyyyy too seriously.

    Cool post, sorry the internet is full of jack asses.
  • __jym__ · 1 year ago
    11. Don't wear spandex.
  • Bulgaria tourism · 1 year ago
    No one likes the giant d-bags at the gym who break these rules.
  • pk · 1 year ago
    I would add to this list, please don't grunt and scream as if giving birth or being backed over by a 1972 Buick. I understand that sometimes a little vocal "oomph" helps and that's fine, but really shouting/screaming/yodeling like you've just been set on fire is not and it's very annoying to other people.
  • DaveC · 1 year ago
    As far as hip abductors/adductors, yes, I do work them. Being a trail ultramarathon runner, they're necessary and useful (trails are definitely not flat, and definitely not smooth.) Explain to me how doing squats and deadlifts (which I also do) works the adductors and abductors sufficiently?
  • Mags · 1 year ago
    Captain Obvious: Um, a COPYRIGHT? Are you serious?

    I don't know what screams "FAIL" more: your "copyright" or the idea that someone would want to claim your spastic, incoherent ideas as their own.

    To the author of this post: A-friggin'-Men. Thanks for making my day. :)
  • santa · 1 year ago
    @ Captain Obvious: We know you are either a woman or you own and work out with one of those Suzanne Summers ThighMasters. By the way, what kind of man reads those books you mentioned? Did Oprah recommend those to you?
  • MaCayn · 1 year ago
    DaveC, widen your stance and lower the bar on your back to do a powerlifting squat. This will work adductors as it shifts focus towards the hips and inner leg. Otherwise, try side lunges.
    My previous comments weren't directed towards the adductor/abductor discussion. Only the leg extension/curl commentary.
  • jblaze · 1 year ago
    Captain obvious = douche
  • bk · 1 year ago
    yes . .men have abductors . .no you don't need to use those machines to work them. in fact you don't need the machines for ANYTHING unless you're rehabbing an injury.
  • Kevin · 1 year ago
    #11: If free weights work for you and you think that everyone else should use them too, see #8.

    No, REALLY--see #8.
  • bk · 1 year ago
    Ok. so if we're going to go with number 8 as the default rule, even in an outside-of-the-gym discussion of exercise/gym behavior .. .well, then . . this whole list is pretty much BS, unsolicited advice. But then again, by clicking on the link you are soliciting advice (or at least conversation) regarding exercise/gym behavior. I was speaking to 'need'. You can do anything you want in the gym. But you flat-out don't need to use weight machines (specifically weight machines, I'm not talking about stationary bikes, treadmills, rowing machines, etc) to train for any activity or sport.
  • Brett · 1 year ago
    @BK-

    Yeah #8 was supposed to mean "don't give me unsolicited advice while I'm working out," not "don't give advice ever." I just don't want to be interrupted when I'm at the gym, in the zone, and already have a plan. But a blog, which is designed for giving one's opinion and having discussion/debate, is a perfectly good place to dispense one's advice. Especially advice like yours, which I wholeheartedly agree with.
  • Christopher · 1 year ago
    Haha...i'm guilty of #10. But I really just skipped over all the others, I mean, they just seem like common sense.

    Great website though...I love it.
  • Kevin · 1 year ago
    Of course one should speak their opinions in the comments, I just object to people using this comment thread as an opportunity to ride their hobby horses about how to work out or what to use. Bottom line--if it works for you and is healthy, then it's good enough no matter what anyone else thinks.

    Besides, weight training is just one of those areas where there are 1,000 different ways to get results and 1,000 different opinions on each way. A "for instance" here: just about every day I see some truly buffed guys exhibiting crappy form, jerking weights around, completely violating warnings against using momentum in their reps. And yet they are getting results. Bully for them. So is it right for me to say here that EVERYONE SHOULD do a 3-count or a 5-count in their positive and negative reps, applying constant effort and not using body momentum? Whatever. Plenty don't and get results.
  • Jay · 1 year ago
    Ahh yes! The Hip Abductor machine, well gentlemen this "Girlie Machine" is actually one of the best machines to train for Snow Skiing. Anything to strengthen the hips will go a long way toward endurance on the slopes.
  • William Shears · 1 year ago
    I think that, well, the world's olympic teams, would disagree with your assessment of the hip machine. But WTF do they know.
  • Personal Trainer Scott White · 1 year ago
    Sweet page, cool site.. keep it up.
  • Nomercy89 · 1 year ago
    I read the list.
    I like it. It's concise and to the point, and gives great advice.
    I read number 10 and I laughed.......why so serious people? The guy's just adding a nice joke... it conveys nothing about misogyny or says anything bad about men or women.....it's a bloody joke!
    Keep up the good work Brett!
  • Morphy · 1 year ago
    I loved the list, and I laughed at #10, which was obviously intended for comic relief. If you want to isolate those, then go for it. Personally I deadlift and squat.
  • ryan · 1 year ago
    as for number 10, those machines are bad for you anyway
  • Joey · 1 year ago
    Well, I would agree with all but #10. I would consider myself pretty damn fit, and I do squats religiously and before any isolating exercises. I have found that adding the "girly" adductor and abductor exercises actually helps improve my squat. And no, I haven't injured myself. Why do the authors have to ruin a perfectly good set of rules of etiquette with an unenlightened, pointless attempt at a punchline that will inevitably coax the insecure and weak-minded into avoiding a perfectly valid exercise all for the sake of perpetuating an archaic (if not prehistoric) notion of "manliness"?

    Coherent enough for you?
  • ferd · 1 year ago
    Don't shave naked in front of the mirror with your junk pressed up against the sink where other people wash their hands. Why do you shave at the GYM anyway ?
  • daniel · 1 year ago
    wow, someone is kind of a gym nazi

    extra ha ha on #7 - it's called day-game. it may not work for you, that's ok. i guess we shouldn't talk to girls at the geocery store, park, or other non-night-club-place either because they aren't dressed up and are busy their chores.
  • tony · 1 year ago
    Nice list.

    Hitting on women is a little different than saying hi or speak to them.
    Someone needs to market a device that makes cell phones blow up when used. My gawd, how did we every live, function and conduct business before we had cell phones going off constantly. As for the guy that said its ok, some of us multi-task, better add self-care to your lists of tasks. Having a pavlovian response (immediately stop something important? (your health) to answer a cell phone is not a good thing. Slave to a machine 24/7...

    Good list of common sense, which these days seems to be quite rare!
  • Dan · 1 year ago
    Rule #11: Don't walk between the cable machine when someone is using it. It's a piece equipment, not a friggin' arch for the king (or queen) to pass through on his way to the throne.

    My $0.02
  • Paul · 1 year ago
    In a lot of cases, those "girly" machines fine tune stabilizer muscles that are neglected by other machines and free weights. Don't make them your primary workout, but don't be afraid to use them as a condiment, either.
  • steve · 1 year ago
    #10 is bogus. Per my observations, usually the fattest, most out of shape men DON'T ever use those machines. The place I go to has a few football players that are in phenomenal shape. They use those machines in addition to free weights. Avoiding an exercise because its "girly" is just plain idiotic. Even if there is a slight benefit, the exercise is useful.
  • DangerDan · 1 year ago
    With respect to #6: "Don't drop the weight."

    There are certain instances where "dropping" dumbells is the appropriate way to end a movement. Consider a heavy dumbell chest press. I have competed in bodybuilding competitions and consider myself a fairly strong guy. I work up to using 130-140lb dumbells for chest press. When I finish my set I am laying on with my back on the bench and a 140lb dumbell in each hand. I have two options for lowering the weight to the ground, (1)drop it on the rubber mats that compose the floor in the dumbell area or (2) try to slowly set the dumbells on the ground.

    I'm not ashamed to admit that I would have more than a little trouble doing a reverse curl to lower the weight to the ground slowly. More importantly, trying to lower the weights slowly risks a bicep tear or shoulder dislocation.

    I completely agree that it is absurd to drop a weight that you can safely lower to the ground, say anything under a 100lb dumbell and I agree with you in that respect. For the guys who lift the big boy weights, dropping dumbells is part of the program.
  • James · 1 year ago
    As a personal trainer I love this list. I would have loved to have responded sooner if I had found it earlier. In one of my past gyms we actually had these posted on on the walls (perhaps you copied them from us too, huh? LOL). As a LONG time gym goer it just surprises me that people who are gyms rats don't know/care about the etiquette of the gym.

    I did want to add two things for future finders of this post:

    1.) Be aware that everyone has a game plan of their own.

    Just because you don't share it doesn't mean that you have to criticize what other people are working towards. Machines, dumbells, cables, etc. all have their purpose or else they wouldn't be in the gym. If you have questions seek out a trainer. If the gym doesn't have one find one online.

    2.) Please get advice from a qualified trainer.

    Every Joe Blow in the gym feels like they have to share their wisdom (true or otherwise) with people in the gym. Sadly, I have seen people waste their time and effort at best and get hurt at worst from that junk. Let the trainers do the training; that's their job. If thers is no trainer, ask if the person would like to hear your advise. If they give you the opening let them have it. Otherwise keep it to yourself.

    Keep up the awesome work!

    ~ J
  • Kyle · 1 year ago
    Number 10 is hilarious, people need to get a sense of humor, isnt that one of the manly skills, dont go on this site if all your looking for is a chance to be offended and speak out against "ignorant" people. The workout rules are great and I agree with everyone of them especially the hover rule, I hate when people due that.
  • buffalojd · 1 year ago
    THANK YOU! I am going to send this to the owner of the gym I use.

    #1 is my favorite - and deserves top honors.
    It annoys the snot out of me when the weights aren't racked. Jeez - how hard is it?! (Apparently - very!)

    #5 is spot on - I would add - please don't use the wipe down towels as your personal brow wiping towel. Gross.

    #10 - I got a good chuckle out of it - thanks - I get the spirit!

    I am really glad I found this site!
  • Tim Lebsack · 9 months ago
    Like many of you, I think I've seen it all while exercising, both at a gym or elsewhere, but newbies make these mistakes until they learn proper behavior.

    The only non-gentlemanly behavior I can recall at the moment is the fellow who always applied cologne before his work-out. Olfactory overload, towards the good or the bad, sends me to the other side of the room.
  • Austin · 8 months ago
    Great list overall. I spent last summer working on staff at my local gym and #8 is one everyone needs to follow. I laughed at #10, although I can think of one exception when a man should use those machines. After messing up my knee (combination of poor biomechanics, over training, and just general strain on the patella tendon), two different physical therapists had me use the abductor machines. No idea how much they specifically did, but the PT as a whole worked wonders. Those muscles may also by useful when wrestling a wild bull to the ground for a a manly steak.