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Most Americans don't have the time to spend hours in the gym - so they simply don't go. And if they did, using those shiny, muscle-isolating machines would only develop aesthetic muscles, not functional muscles.
For more, I whole-heartedly recommend www.crossfit.com, a website with which I suspect the author is familiar. The Crossfit program and the Zone diet are quite compatible with a paleo mindset; it's fascinating to see the convergence in thinking from different programs.
There is absolutely no evidence that the cavemen lived a healthy life. Nobody actually lived with them and examined them, so all you have are wild guesses. The only hard evidence we have is their bones, and those generally tell us that they lived short and violent lives. Not very healthy.
You're also assuming that the human physiology hasn't changed in the last 20,000 - 30,000, since the agricultural age. That has to be examined as well.
That Neanderthal brains were larger than ours also meant they needed many more calories in a day. The brain is the largest calorie-sink in a (pseudo-)human body, in addition to the fact that they were far more muscular than we are (or even than physically-modern humans living during Neanderthal times were). 5,000 calories a day minimum, according to the most recent National Geographic. That's Tour de France-racer calorie intake.
Other than that though, good post. About a month ago I started exercising using the Shovelglove method, which imitates functional exercise by swinging around a sledgehammer wrapped in a sweater to help keep from damaging things. The whole idea of functional workouts really appeals to me.
This is not to say that we should sit back and stuff grease burgers into our mouths, we in the west have the benefit of science and technology, which enables us to know how to lead a healthy life, so we have should take advantage of this knowledge. But lets not over romanticize the 'good old days'. Life was hard, brutal and short.
Certainly, cavemen were not nearly as healthy as this article seems to portray, but the life expectancy of early man was not as bad as the commonly stated estimate of 15-30 years. This is because for a huge portion of human history, infant and early child mortality were extremely high. If you look at the life expectancy of all people who survived to their fifth year, it normalizes significantly.
http://www.crossfit.com/journal/library/05_03_I...
Old-fashioned outdoor WORK (think of Reagan chopping firewood) beats exercise any day.
Sources:
http://discovermagazine.com/2006/may/tramps-lik...
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/11/04...
Martin, you're wrong. Period. Life expectancy at infancy may have only been 35, but that's due to high infant mortality and a lifestyle conducive to death from Saber Tooth Tiger. At the turn of the 20th century, only about 80% of children reached age 5. No telling what that number was 50,000 years ago when predators might haul Little Timmy away. As a comparision, life expectancy at the turn of the 20th century was only around 45. We've added nearly 70% to that in a century....why? Surgical and sanitation improvements.
Further, today, we can survive gunshots and knife attacks, car accidents, and falls from height, so long as you are in a relatively well-populated area. Diseases that once killed have been eradicated or reduced to a mere nuisance. Rest assured that it's medicine and sanitation that have caused the prodigious increase in life expectancy, not actual improvements in lifestyle. I wrote a post disproving this myth long ago if you'd care to see more of the data: Paleolithic Longevity.
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Scott Kustes
Modern Forager
By the same logic brushing your teeth and regular physicals are bad.
Likely some good points about fad diets... but I'm not sure I want to look at someone who lived a hard life and mimic that.
Many homeless people live similar to cavemen did. They have lots of free time (low stress), walk miles a day pushing heavy carts filled with garbage and carrying beverage cans, sleep on the sidewalk mid day, hunt for food (breakfast isn't their most important meal). Assuming some aren't on drugs or alcoholics... they live perfectly healthy lives.
The bit about not wearing shoes is a little sketchy too. Sure, it's a good idea on the beach and such, but it's been proven that too much movement on solid surfaces (such as pavement, remember, cavement didn't have pavement, they lived mostly on dirt and grass) without proper footwear will destroy the arch in your foot and contribute unnecessarily to the breakdown in cartilage in your knees, not to mention contribute to major back problems. Barefoot on the beach and on the grass makes sense, on solid surfaces, not so much.
I do agree about the lifting straps though, if you can't lift it unaided, you can't lift it. Use less weight unaided and it will help build the stabilizer muscles that prevent injuries. The rest of the article, likewise, is excellent. You raise a lot of good points that I think can help a lot of people, and I think you do a good job to dispel the notion of muscle isolation as the best thing since sliced bread. Your muscles aren't meant to work alone. Isolating each muscle and working it out is like separating the members of a team and having them all practice individually. When it comes time for game day, they will fail.
Overall, a very good post.
But on a more general note I found the article to be a overgeneralized take on a stereotyped hunter-gatherer lifestyle (aka caveman) with modern ideas of fitness thrown in. The type caveman existence described is just one example of how people may have survived all those years ago. But what about people living in more arctic conditions? Did they have access to fruits and berries and nuts? There are people who until just a hundred years ago or so existed almost solely off of whale, seal and other marine life in the extreme north.
I do however agree with the ideas of leaving a healthy lifestyle and getting a balanced workout. I do love running and lifting free weights myself and have seen drastic improvements since I began. But I'm not sure if the caveman analogy can be used as a vehicle for change in our own lifestyles and diets.
Is there a particular workout regimines that you recommend for cycling through?
@ cavemen living short lives - Yes on "average" they did live shorter lives. You have high rates of death during childbirth and infant stages of life. Not too mention the harsh living environments they were in. The point being that rates of degenerative diseases (heart diseases, cancers, osteoporosis, arthritis, etc..) are low to non-existent compared with modern culture today. Also while people may live longer today thanks to more acute/emergency care that prevents death, I don't call being bed ridden or in a wheelchair taking 10 medications at age 70 my version of living. While people may get older today, they are not as functional and sicker. Lastly if you look at more modern groups of people who stick to their ancestral ways (like the Inuits), they have almost non-existant rates of cancers and heart diseases, and they can also live longer. You also see this with tribes like the Masai and Kitavins who still stick to natural patterns. Once there becomes a large influence of agriculturism and modernization creeps in (or westernization and the processed foods/sugars) you see a huge decline in health and increase in all the degenerative diseases. (here's a past post I did on the Inuit)
http://www.theiflife.com/2008/04/13/the-inuit-p...
Also here is more information when comparing the health and longevity of Paleolithic to Neolithic people:
http://www.beyondveg.com/nicholson-w/angel-1984...
@ running barefoot - it's probably not practical nowadays, but to think we need more padded running support in our heels is just forcing a wrong running gait. If you want to find a natural stride, run barefoot on grass. You can also wear Nike Frees, Vibram Five Fingers, or other shoes that closely resemble barefoot but still give protection.
@ the brain mostly water. True in the volume sense, as is the whole body. In terms of makeup especially in relation to when they ate it, it's 60-70% fat.
@ workout cycling - Keep your movements mostly compounded with reps 5-10, using free weights (barbells, dumbbells). Whether you superset them or do them straight, keep rest periods short. Honestly there is nothing new in the fitness world as what works best for working out, just people marketing it differently nowadays.
@ Different Diets - I think you were referring to the Inuit in your comment, as they survived on high intakes of fat/blubber and protein with very little fruits and vegetables...all while having little to no cancer or heart diseases. (which all changed once they modern era of processed foods, soda, and sugar came around for the younger generations who didn't want to follow in their past traditions). High carb...low carb...high fat....you will see it all with tribes depending on where they are located, but the key factor you will notice with them all is no sugar, no processed foods, little grains, and very low fasting insulin levels (which could possible be the most important factor in our health and longevity).
In the end the point being, see what true health and movement is....see how the body was meant to function and eat, and then apply to your life for maximum results and longevity. While cavemen led harsher lives and lived shorter on "average", modern man is sicker and less functional than his prehistoric relative. Having dealt with many young people (who should be in good health in their 30s-40s) suffering from arthritis, obesity, and many other diseases while also on 4-5 medications...I can't buy into the fact that we are a healthier society today.
This premise is consistent with the type of politically-correct illogic that espouses the "noble savage" theory of mankind: that we started good and have worked our way evil.
Brett, I know you didn't write this, but your website can do better than this.
All those fruits they gather in the summer are full of the stuff.
Paleolithic man is seen as a healthier ideal because they moved (excercised) and ate in accordance with their adaptations to their environment that occurred naturally over tens of thousands of years.
Each adaptation, whether in diet or biology gave man an advantage in survival. So, by definition it was ideal. It takes many thousands of years to for these adaptions to take place; e.g. some black african in the rift valley didn't spontaneously give birth to a caucasian. Any alteration by modern man in diet (grains, milk or any other recent addition in the last 10k years) or movement has not had enough time to allow man to adapt to it.
To eat and move like paleolithic man is ideal because that is the way we are meant to, as proven by hundreds of thousands of years of survival
As for the arguments of others. Yes, paleolithic man wore shoes, but they were nothing more than strips of leather that allowed natural movement of the feet. They were not wearing cushioned, motion controlling pillows.
Arctic dwelling, in evolutionary terms, is relatively recent, so they are not germane as an ideal unless you are that ethnicity.
Some arguers against the thesis of the article fail to understand the difference between average life span and maximum life span with respect to diet and excercise.
Maximum life span is the amount of time the longest living humans lived. This has not significantly changed over time.
Average life span is just that, the average. This did not change significantly between paleolithic times and 1920. Since 1920, medical care, sanitation, and a less dangerous environment have drastically increased the average life span.
So to argue that since average life span was shorter in paleolithic times, it is unwise to eat and move in a similar fashion, misunderstands the causes of their earlier demise.
Whatever.
Where hunters chase the animals for hours at a time until they drop from exhaustion, then they move in for the kill?
Some scientists have even theorised that the reason we have such a large achilles tendon is precisely for long-distance running, and we are built for endurance running(Sweat glands,achilles tendon, better developed gluteus maximus then other apes)
Any of the things you say in the article could well be true, but you should really explain why they're better, as opposed to simply appealing to the "cavemen were better" principle.
Crossfit is a great way to do it with Paleo and Zone diet!
Part of the reason scientist think cave men were healthier has to do with Bone density. They had the same bone density as pro athletes.
Also as mention earlier weight loss deals with Insulin levels. 25 present of the population have adverse effects to eating grains. Their body reacts with lots of insulin which tells the body to store the excess carbs as fat, which deprives the brain of the carbs it need so then giving you a carb craving putting you in a yo yo type situation.
But eating veggies, which are carbs, it puts the carbs in the blood slower so you don’t get the spike in insulin.
http://www.environnement.ens.fr/perso/claessen/...
Walking on flat surfaces, pavement,etc is like isolation exercises for certain muscle groups. At least Cavemen walked on uneven terrain that promoted all muscles in their feet and legs to work together (Anybody see how walking on flat surfaces for most of your life could put unnatural stresses on you spine?).
What about caveWOman? Would I be healthier if I were in a state of constant pregnancy and nursing from age 13 until 40? This article seems like just another way to say "Don't eat junk and exercise more," which is great advice... but the caveman comparison is just silly. Why would you want to make people reject your message by delivering it in such a controversial way? And breakfast IS important. Kids who eat before school consistently retain more and test better. That has to mean something.
Cheers.
What about caveWOman? Would I be healthier if I were in a state of constant pregnancy and nursing from age 13 until 40? This article seems like just another way to say “Don’t eat junk and exercise more,” which is great advice… but the caveman comparison is just silly.
Ummm... Am I missing something?
The blog title is "The Art of Manliness", not "The Art of Personness".
I don't go to classical music blogs and complain that they're not addressing heavy metal issues. Doing so would make me sound pissy and like I was looking for something to complain about.
I'm not trying to say you're being a griefer, but... actually no. That is what I'm saying.
Doesn't mean you're a bad person, merely acting like a troll in this instance.
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