DISQUS

Art of Manliness: Are the Suburbs Killing Your Manhood?

  • Adam · 1 year ago
    Great article, bud.
  • Riley · 1 year ago
    This was a great read, really enjoyed this article. Reading it reminded me of a movie I say on PBS a while ago called Alone in the Wilderness. I think you can read a bit about it on. It followed a fellow named Dick Proenneke who build a rugged life for himself on a lake in Alaska. If this article struck a chord with anyone like it did with me, watch that movie, it will inspire you a bit, I am sure.
  • Cameron Schaefer · 1 year ago
    @ Adam,

    Thanks for the kind words, glad you enjoyed it!

    @ Riley,

    Sounds like an awesome story, I'll have to do a little research on the guy. One of my favorite reads in high school was "Into the Wild" by Krakauer which was recently made into a movie....sounds like a similar story to the PBS one.

    Alaska is definitely a place all it's own when it comes to understanding the power of the wild. The mountains, lakes, glaciers and animals are bigger than anything in the lower 48...it's very intimidating in a sense and humbling...but in a good way.
  • pete · 1 year ago
    I'd like to add Travel to the list of things that you can do to get away from your comfort zone. There's nothing more empowering than showing up in a foreign city and finding your way around by yourself. I've taken it a step further and have lived in several countries, and I'm a thousand times more confident than I was before I first took the plunge!
  • Keith Brawner · 1 year ago
    Good read, don't stop doing what you are doing.
  • Wrathbone · 1 year ago
    The suburbs would indeed kill my manhood, as I've lived in them all my life, but for reasons different then the ones listed here. It is the main reason that when I finally do purchase my own home, it will be on at least 10 acres of property that will distance me from any neighbors or uninvited visitors. You say in the suburbs everything is under control. I say it's all under THEIR control, and it's fine as long as you are comfortable with not being in control of anything.

    The suburbs rob you of privacy and the God-given right to run your house YOUR way. My parents have to pay money to a homeowners association that does absolutely nothing for them. Neighbors frequently let their children run through their yard and let their pets do their business. They play basketball in the street, use foul language at high volumes, and drive by blaring horrible music through speaker-destroying bass systems. Police frequently ticket cars in their own driveways whenever even an inch of sidewalk is taken up. Salesmen and religious hustlers harass them at will. And I think one thing I've learned from living in the suburbs is that the modern definition of a neighbor is "someone who doesn't know how to mind their own business."

    Simply put, suburbs rob men of their most precious right, TO BE LEFT ALONE. Communities are no longer bastions of togetherness, they're giant social clubs that scrutinize and then judge you based on your social, financial, and religious standing. The concept of living in neighborhoods is completely antithetical to me as I'm VERY territorial. On the forums someone asked what one would do if gangstas started spraypainting their fence. First question I'd ask myself would be exactly how did these thugs find their way onto my 10 acres of property, and then of course I'd grab my shotgun.

    I'm also fiercely solitary. I have no problem interacting with the outside world when I choose to join it in transit to work and school, but I feel that my home should be completely free from any elements that I do not wish to include. Quite frankly, I can't see why anyone who values their privacy woud want to live in the suburbs anymore.
  • Will · 1 year ago
    Well, I feel pretty inspired! Both to get some property out of town, and to stretch myself while I stay in town.

    I always thought I would get back to the countryside I came from one day, but given my job it seems impractical. But I'd hate for our soon-to-be-born son to be as ignorant of country things as many of my friends.

    Wrathbone, I don't have a homeowner's association (and wouldn't). But I still can't let a dog run free, raise goats or chickens, or shoot the deer browsing in my garden.
  • John B · 1 year ago
    The environments where complete control is not possible have, I fear, shifted from the wilderness to a new age wilderness; our offices and workplaces.

    That is even more scary than facing down a grizzly bear.
  • Jeff@MySuper-Charged Life · 1 year ago
    This is a fantastic article! I have long thought that we are dying as men because of the safety of the world in which we live. Men were made to tame the wilderness, but once it is tamed, we need to move on to the next adventure. Adventure can be found in a lot of different settings as you mention above. However, it seems much harder to find in the subarbs than out in the woods. I feel the need for a man trip coming on!
  • Nesagwa · 1 year ago
    Im kind of the opposite of a lot of guys (my dad being one of them) and dont really enjoy living in the middle of nowhere.

    My house is slap dab in the middle of Tampa, right in the heart of the city. Its quiet, but its still a pretty active and diverse community. Couldnt do without it.
  • Ben Wilson · 1 year ago
    Hello. Neat article, and timely. (We are city folk who've been surprisingly happy in the suburbs for the last five years, now considering a move back to the city.) I'm not a regular reader of this blog, so I don't know your personal circumstances. However if your oldest is only 6 months along, I have good news for you - raising her (and any more who come along) will give you more daily and weekly encounters with danger and out-of-controledness than just about anything else you can imagine! I personally have three kids ages 3, 5, and 9. Think Steve Martin in the movie "Parenthood;" you better like the roller coaster...

    There's something important in this idea for this blog and this readership, I think, though I'm just firing this off quickly so I don't expect to be very articulate about it. IMO there are few things more manly than being an attentive, involved, and caring father to your kids. It is difficult in a way that you can't imagine, at all, until you're several years into it. (Or I couldn't, anyway.) It's rewarding like that, too. It's critically important to the future of civilization, etc., all those attributes of something manly. And for your danger / putting-yourself-in-situations-outside-of-your-complete-control jones - don't worry it comes in spades! Grizzlies, ha! Try Chuck E Cheese with a dozen five year olds, and try maintaining the attentive, involved, and caring "good dad" part from start to finish. Now *that's* an adventure right under your nose...

    Best regards, and thanks for sharing.
  • Doug McIsaac · 1 year ago
    Great article. I appreciate the insights. Learning and growing is just about stepping outside of our own comfort zones. For some that's walking when it says don't walk fro other it's yelling "hey bear"
    Thanks,
    Doug
  • Brennan Kingsland · 1 year ago
    Interesting article! However, especially after reading some of the comments, I am more convinced than ever that "ATTITUDE" makes the difference - no matter what environs you live in, or pass through.

    I personally believe that the concept of "total control of one's life" is a complete illusion. There is no "total control", no matter how much we may delude ourselves otherwise.

    Children playing on a lawn, or pets relieving themselves on your property, only become big issues if you choose to focus on them.

    Nowadays, life in the suburbs is only marginally safer than living in an urban area. Criminals have vehicles and often choose to go where the pickings are easy - e.g. the suburbs and quiet neighborhoods. And traffic (crazy drivers) are everywhere.

    I'm not trying to be an alarmist, but I wouldn't rely too heavily on safety in the suburbs for your daughter. Too many tragic news reports have revealed only constant vigilance is acceptable protection.

    From my own personal experience, I can tell you that home invasions occur in "safe" environs, even security-protected areas. And, no matter where you live, illness and accident can occur. It takes a real man to muscle-through a heart attack and rebuild his life.

    Just so you know I am not a doomsday proponent, let me assure you that I've weathered several criminal attempts on my life. (I'm a nurse, NOT in law enforcement.) My husband has endured 5 heart attacks and open-heart surgery and we've come through fighting. I have Multiple Sclerosis, in remission, and we enjoy every moment of life we can share together.

    My words of advice are not to delude yourself that ANYWHERE is totally safe (or emasculating). Life is designed to be exciting and dangerous and thrilling. Control is an illusion. Enjoy the ride!
  • Zach · 1 year ago
    Life in the suburbs in frightening in its peace. To quote Lonely Planet, "Therefore, I travel."
  • Jacob · 1 year ago
    "Ruling your job, family, and social life with an emperor-like authority and dominance."

    That is the most troubling thing I have heard in this blog. 'Dominance' is not what being a man is about. I for one, looked for a companion that would not let herself be dominated over. if I ever have kids (which I don't), I would teach them to never be dominated over, whether by me or someone else.

    I do like the article, however. Spontaneity, though not directly mentioned, is my solution to the proposed "suburban mentality" of safeness and redundancy.

    For me, spontaneous decisions keep me, as a man, happy. As an example, I am working this summer in D.C. from Texas. I decided to plan a trip to New York and decided to stay in a hostel. I wanted to keep the trip cheap and to stay clear of the touristic cores. I decided to stay in a Hostel in Harlem. To make a long story short, I ended up walking 4 blocks in Harlem, which despite what people say really is a rough neighborhood. It was 2 in the morning on Saturday night (making it Sunday, but you get me). Stupid, yes. Spontaneous, definitely.

    And its the times where we risk something, no matter if its getting mugged or getting kicked out of somewhere by rent-a-cops that give us the best experiences and memories of our lifetimes. For fathers, it could be those times when you treat yourself or your child to something that really makes a difference in their lives. Something out of the norm is what they will remember most.

    We don't live in a time of war, we can't say that we survived Iwo Jima or a bomb attack in Iraq. Its the moments where our securities are jeopardized and redundancy compromised when we get the fullest out of life.
  • Israel · 1 year ago
    Hailing from NYC, the Bronx and now living in Tampa, FL. this really hit home. Wow.
  • Dave Atkins · 1 year ago
    I'm not sure what the "unneutered" alternative to suburbia is; as you conclude it really is a choice of how you live and whether you "accept" the constraints of suburban conformity. But I have to confess I haven't really give much thought to a need to "preserve" my manliness.
  • Meiji_man · 1 year ago
    Good, thought provoking read.
  • Neil · 1 year ago
    Cameron,

    Agreed 100%. I spent a year living in Bolivia, where life is anything but predictable and controlled, and it taught me so much. More recently, I did wilderness therapy with a bunch of crazy at-risk youth in a desert for weeks on end. Now, I'm living in a suffocating suburb with my mom and looking for a "real" job, only to find that even a short time of 'burbs + office may be too much (or too little?) for me to handle... we shall see.

    Anyway, liked the article a lot! Looking forward to reading more from you.

    -Neil
  • Brett McKay · 1 year ago
    @Jacob-
    “Ruling your job, family, and social life with an emperor-like authority and dominance.”

    Cameron says he once thought that is what manhood was about, but he then goes on to refute that defintion.
  • dadshouse · 1 year ago
    I've lived in the suburbs most of my life, and don't feel I've missed a thing. I take trips, get out hiking, sailing, skiing, cycling, visit other countries. And like you said, you can volunteer with youths (I've coached soccer) and place yourself in situations outside your control. The peace of the suburbs is indeed a great environment for raising kids, and it's allowed me a great deal of introspection. The universe lies within you, after all...
  • Mike · 1 year ago
    I'll tell you one thing,

    Growing up and living in Queens NYC, the one thing your life is not, is predictable.
    Every time I step out of my house and take a bus, adventure is bound to happen.

    If I'm not walking on abandoned train tracks, I'm meeting a 90 year old pink hair wearing grandma who wants to tell me about the time she went to South Africa to stop diamond smugglers.
  • Mike · 1 year ago
    Cameron, this is a great article and I like the conclusion you come to. So often, we look at the world, which has been largely explored, settled, and filled with malls, and forget that adventures aren't just for the Indiana Joneses of the world. Jackson's book is really eye-opening, though I wonder if we can see the suburb as simply the symptom of man's seemingly endless attempts to control his environment. An organic extension of the decision to settle into an agricultural lifestyle, rather than a nomadic/hunter-gatherer one.
  • Cameron Schaefer · 1 year ago
    @ Mike,

    So glad that you understood my conclusion. It seems that quite a few readers have felt that I'm advocating leaving the suburbs as the only way to keep your manhood intact...this is simply not the case.

    I tried to make the point that while trips to Alaska or other wild places are a great way to leave the controlled environment, there are thousands of opportunities right under our noses...even in the suburbs!

    I agree that the suburbs are an extension of our decision to settle down which isn't bad, just can't let it lead to a "settling down" of or spirits.
  • Tyler @ Building Camelot · 1 year ago
    Nice story Cameron. I've lived "in the city" for 8-9 years now and I've never looked back. There have always been a "comfort-factor" associated with life, even in the city, but it's definitely not at the same level as the burbs.

    I even inspired my sister to move more into the city (she's in Dallas) and she's never been happier.

    What I have found that kills my manhood is my sit-on-my-ass-in-a-tiny-cubicle day job. But...that's a whole other story.
  • Meiji_man · 1 year ago
    Come to think of it adventure can be found where ever you chose to step away from the path.

    Acquainted with the Night
    by: Robert Frost

    I have been one acquainted with the night.
    I have walked out in rain -- and back in rain.
    I have outwalked the furthest city light.

    I have looked down the saddest city lane.
    I have passed by the watchman on his beat
    And dropped my eyes, unwilling to explain.

    I have stood still and stopped the sound of feet
    When far away an interrupted cry
    Came over houses from another street,

    But not to call me back or say good-bye;
    And further still at an unearthly height,
    O luminary clock against the sky

    Proclaimed the time was neither wrong nor right.
    I have been one acquainted with the night.
  • Zendad · 1 year ago
    Wow, did you hit the nail on the head!
    My cure for this is rebellion in pieces. As standard dad issue I do NOT and will NEVER own or drive a minivan, EVERRRR. I instead bought a crew cab pickup truck. I get away to the inlaws place so i can fish, snowmobile and swim at their lakefront property. I dabble in woodworking and actually use my garage as a workshop and not a storage area. Yep, I always joke that the necks are a little redder on my side of the street but at least I have the calim that i "still have a pair".
    Kudos, good article!
    Zendad
    http://www.zendad.net
  • Jaye · 1 year ago
    Suburbia is pretty tighly controlled, however you can't just accept the occasional 'scheduled' breaks where you go off to alaska or work at the shelter, sometimes you have to actually willfully shake things up inject some chaos into your life and be aware that safety is stagnation, that something can happen that changes everything. Accept this understand this and in some respects be prepared for it, by doing more than just your nice scheduled little forays into uncertainty, but actually doing something unexpected and out of character... maybe right off the rocker, but important to you, to understand who you are and hopefully make you a stronger person.
  • wozza · 1 year ago
    I think sport is great for this, especially contact sport. We have a league for the 40 and over age group in Australian Football. For other countries, there is over-age competition in soccer or rugby union. I recommend it highly
  • Brett · 1 year ago
    @Wozza-

    Great idea. I played football in high school and still miss it. Sports, especially contact sports, make you feel alive.
  • schaefer · 1 year ago
    @ Wozza,

    You're right on the money, sports are incredibly effective at getting us out of our comfort zones, especially more physical ones as Brett mentioned. You sound just like my father-in-law, haha! He is a South African and a huge Springbok fan. You Aussies, SA and New Zealand have some great rugby teams!
  • Rodney Hampton · 1 year ago
    I don't enjoy living in the suburbs anymore. I call it the tyranny of suburbia. Every Saturday morning, the lawn mowing starts. It continues through Sunday night. Too often the police shake down people for minor infractions. I understand law and order, but this place is ridiculous. All I want to do is earn enough money to get some land, raise some animals and some food, and keep other people the hell away from me and my family.
  • Kevin · 1 year ago
    This was an excellent piece. I think one notable reason why the suburban lifestyle (in general) is unmanly, is that it is selfish. It is finding a safe place, surrounding yourself with things that give you pleasure, and saying "To hell with everyone else." That selfishness is largely where the inner dissatisfaction comes from, I think.
  • Chris W · 1 year ago
    Good article. I've lived on a farm, in the suburbs and now in a major city and I have to say that there are good and bad points to all three, however, Where I am in my life right now, i have to say I am really enjoying city life. I like being able to bike or walk to were I need to go, whether that be the job, grocery, the park or the local bar. Having a diverse group of neighbors is also quite enjoyable. Here in the city, unlike the suburbs I've actually gotten to know some of my neighbors. Sure, the suburbs allow you to surround yourself by people just like you, but that leads to a boring existence in my opinion.
  • Paul · 1 year ago
    The key element of your thesis (with which I substantially agree), lies, it seems, in the fact that suburbs do not represent the homeowner's control, but rather the planner's. It's a pre-existing controlled environment into which households are introduced without altering their surroundings. You can't control how your shrubs look because they were there when you bought the house and the neighborhood association has to approve landscaping alterations. All the control (or at least a great deal of it on a visual level) has already been exercised by outside parties. That, I think, is part of what kills me about most suburban areas: the visual uniformity.
  • Gary · 1 year ago
    "The suburbs convince us that the pinnacle of life consists of comfort, safety, and control. And the man that finally succumbs to this deadly logic is a miserable creature forced to live off the exhilaration of other men’s feats."

    This is why weekend sports sports is so popular. Men park themselves in front of the TV and get their blood pumping watching other men do things.

    George Carlin had a good line about that. He said, "You always see fans after a game shouting, 'We won! We won!'. No, they won. You watched."

    Wozza, Brett, and Schaefer, you are right on the money. Don't just watch other people play, go out and do something.
  • Lee · 1 year ago
    You are what you do.
    You are not where you live.

    If you define yourself in terms of the length of your coffee order, and you define your manliness as a function of your domination of some barista, I have news for you:

    You are doing it wrong.

    I don't care how many Alaskan pony-mosquitoes you killed.
  • ChrisB · 1 year ago
    Just one quibble: Nowhere is completely safe. My suburb is one of the safest places in the country; we had four home invasion-robberies last year. The burbs may be safer than the inner city, but the hoods have figured out that the money is in the burbs.
  • Anonymouse · 1 year ago
    Wow, this site has really jumped the shark. First, an environmentalist chick defines manhood. Now we have urbanist vitirol.

    Mr. Goetz is from my suburb! A nearby metropolitan newspaper gleefully interviewed him to make the point that suburbanities are subhuman. I sent him an email and my advice to him is the same to those of you who buy into the myths about suburbia... Simply get rid of your car (and all motorized vehicles).

    The suburbs are too safe? Try crossing multi-lane roads, even at the designated pedestrian crossings. Need a manly challenge? Try carrying your groceries a mile or two from the store in inclement weather.
  • Brett · 1 year ago
    @Anonymouse-

    From your incoherent comment I honestly can't tell if you like the suburbs or hate them. At any rate, I don't think you understand the point of the post.

    As far as jumping the shark...if that's the case, when would you say we had our glorious peak? Do enlighten me.
  • Cameron Schaefer · 1 year ago
    @ Lee,

    It was a joke as in "haha"...guess you didn't think it was that funny.
  • Ken · 1 year ago
    We all hear a lot of suburb-bashing from those who would like to cram us all back into the the squalid urban wastelands from which we escaped (I exaggerate for effect). Keep in mind that the growth of suburbs is a direct consequence of the crime, high taxes, corrupt government and failed educational systems of our urban centers. People escape when they can, because they can, and want something better.

    That said, I agree with the author's point about the manhood-numbing effect of a life without challenges. At the age of 40 I felt like life was beginning to pass me by. It had all become too safe, too dull and too easy. So I decided to do something about it. First I did bike rides across Kansas and Missouri. Then with the encouragement of a supportive girlfriend (now my wife), I decided to pursue my childhood dream of getting my pilot's license. I also decided to marry said girlfriend and start my own business. No guarantee of success in any of those ventures, but I'm a lot more challenged and happy than I ever was before I stopped playing it safe.

    Risk! It's what being a man is all about.
  • Anonumouse · 1 year ago
    @Brett - I was defending the suburbs against those, like Mr. Goetz and this article's author, who say they are safe and controlled. My pedestrian advice was intended as a riposte. Perhaps I should have enumerated which myths about suburbia I was concerned about.

    As for this blog's peak, I would say it was the article about soda. I also enjoyed the articles about pocket squares and pull-ups. I'm currently reading a biography of Teddy Roosevelt, as also mentioned on this blog.
  • Brett · 1 year ago
    @Anonymouse-

    Thanks for the clarification. I get what you're saying now.

    As far as our "peak" goes, I'd just like to point out that the pull-ups post was posted only 2 weeks ago. So it's a little premature I'd say to think that in the last 2 weeks we've suddenly fallen off the wagon. Like any publication, some weeks will be enjoyed by some readers more than others.
  • Aaron · 1 year ago
    so true, we dont have burbs as such over here(nz) but it is getting that way, you tell someone that your off to the hills for a week instead of going to the pub most people have no clue on what your talking about.
  • MikeonTV · 1 year ago
    Having grown up in the Suburbs I can say that I am damn happy I will never again be in the mentality of feeling I should live there again!`
  • EcoAussie · 1 year ago
    Really enjoyed that...my next house will be on water with lots of land.
  • Sunnyday · 1 year ago
    Hi there. Very insightful post here.
  • Chip Bell · 10 months ago
    I compleatly understand about challenging your self etc and not geting soft of leting fear rule you or what ever. What I don't understand is why any one would want to link it to that "manhood" crap All that has done is but our genitals above our minds I know plenty of women who can do all this stuff. I won't even date a girl if she's not a feminist lest I wind up with some sissy "girly girl" who want's her daddy to protect her. There is NOTHING special about being male. It's the mind that counts being sentient able to think. Maleness is a mere accident of birth.