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Rendy — Fri, 18 Jul 2014 02:39:35 -0000

I was watching Dial M for Murder, then Grace Kelly appeared on screen, I was mesmerized to the point where I unable to keep up with the movie plot. Good to have rewind button there LOL.

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LJ — Sat, 30 Nov 2013 02:40:34 -0000

Hmm. I couldn't help myself when I started reading the comments, though to be honest, I wish I didn't. The sheer prudishness of some posters really astonishes me. I mean, for the Vargas girls or some of the drawn posters, I sorta understand an aversion to that - it can get pretty racy. But with actresses and models like Grace Kelly and Veronica Lake I don't understand how people can come to the conclusion that they are the same as crude internet porn. And anyway, even if they were, even if in some dark, dark corner of extreme right-wing prudish belief, they were the one and the same, you still, still would have no right to tell someone not to look at it. Come on. This is not your site. Don't forsake this wealth of advice and knowledge because of personal preference. And if you really can't stand the sight of these pictures, go somewhere else and don't bother the people who do appreciate this.

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northeastoutdoorsman — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 22:31:52 -0000

My first reaction to reading this post was that it is pretty harmless. The women are attractive, classy, and certainly modest by todays standards.

After reading some of the comments by those who object to this post I began to have second thoughts. I will never be able to say that the women above aren't attractive but does a classy woman pose in a bathing suit for men to look at? These pictures are almost innocent by todays standards but they were most likely borderline scandalous back in the day. Grandma sure wouldn't have been happy to see grandpa leering at these pinups, also I'm sure most mothers would have been ashamed to find one in their sons bedroom, and their sisters embarrassed.

These pictures are certainly a far cry from pornography but they opened the door just a crack and what followed was a flood.

This is a fantastic website and their is a wealth of terrific information and lessons to be taken from it.

Respectfully,
Northeastoutdoorsman

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deChelca — Wed, 05 Jun 2013 03:34:03 -0000

I'm 42 and, thanks to my Mom, I've been watching and loving old movies all my life. Love them.

That said, I would have watched Doris Day read a newspaper. Wow.

And where's Kim Novak??

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Dixon — Wed, 05 Jun 2013 00:06:55 -0000

Wow, a lot of losers post here. "I...can't look at pics of women in swimsuits. Too much for me." Might be time to think of deactivating comments. Online comments just seem to be a place where the mentally ill gather to vomit forth the tortured thoughts of their diseased minds.

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Leia — Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:08:01 -0000

Since I'm African-American, both of my grandfathers (more than likely my mother's father since he served in the South Pacific in World War II) probably would have been Josephine Baker, who is more of a performer. There's no recognition for these women because of race relations in the past when there was segregation. In fact, I was hardly able to find any information on pin-up girls that were of any other race....

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Hayden M — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 22:16:13 -0000

Grace Kelly: (In my opinion) the sum of all female perfection. Today I hear a lot how 'Megan Fox looked hot in that swimsuit' or junk like that. Anybody who's ever seen 'Rear Window' knows that Princess Grace could do more to a man while fully dressed than modern actresses can do in their underwear, just because of her intelligence, elegance, and poise. ( I say 'man' because I doubt a hedonistic overgrown male-child would understand the allure). When she came on screen you knew you were seeing a vision of the unobtainable. What can I say? Bimbos are legion, real ladies are few, and she was one of a kind.

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Shi — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 23:51:28 -0000

Timinator and Julio - love your comments :-)
Being a woman (and a petite, curvy one at that), I enjoyed this article very much. Do I have anything against thin women? Absolutely not!! All women are beautiful. We all have our own unique and beautiful bodies!!
I appreciate the fact that there are men (my amazing husband being one of them), who love a womanly, curvy woman.
And that there are men who love a lean, thinner woman. To each his own.
There is so much pressure on girls and women to be PERFECT (whether it be thinner, curvier, bigger this, smaller that, etc.), and that's the real issue.
There is almost no encouragement for women to love who they are - their bodies, their minds, their class, their style. And that is sad.
Were the bombshells the article talks about better or perfect? Of course not. We are all only human.
I think what the article was trying to express was the lack of taste and class. The lack in today's society of accepting a woman for HER body, curvy or not.

And there again, we are ALL entitled to our own opinions :-D

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Andrea — Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:02:51 -0000

I for one LOVED this article! I kind of accidently stumbled across this page, and found it soo refreshing!
As a young woman, it is hard to find role models more like Christina Hendricks (Joan Halloway- AMC's "Mad Men") in a world where Nicole Richie and Anna Lyn Mccord (sp?) are the 'epitome' of the female form.

The men from the 30's and 40's were classy as well, and knew how to treat others. I don't think you would catch John Wayne sucker punching someone or shouting crude remarks out of a car window. Hopefully the media will follow "Mad Men"'s lead and do a little throw back in time, to when men were men and women were women!

This article is by no means against the women of today, it is refreshing! Love it! xoxo

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DJS — Sun, 04 Apr 2010 21:26:13 -0000

Ingrid Bergmann. Totally agree with Grace Kelly. She is stunning, and the precise way she talks seems to ooze sophistication.

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L. Neil Smith — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:32:38 -0000

I _am_ your grandpa, and I never saw a thing I liked about Audrey Hepburn. They're all right here about Bettie Page, though, and Ava Gardner may be the most beautiful woman who ever lived. And Hedy Lamar (_not_ Hedley!) was a technogeek's dream girl. But who could ever forget Janet Leigh, especially in those peek-a-boo silk pajamas she wore for John Wayne in _Jet Pilot_?

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Steve — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:21:45 -0000

Loved this article - the women of the '40s and '50s had it going on back in the day! Especially liked Grandma at the end of the list.

While I was glad to see Grace Kelly, Rita Hayworth, and of course, Marilyn, why no mention of Bettie Page, Ava Gardner, or Ursula Andress? The omission of Audrey Hepburn also rankles.

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Andy "Chieftain" Cawston — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 01:36:10 -0000

I've always enjoyed the Vargas Girls pin-ups, ever since I was a 12 year-old boy. Particularly the ones that graced aeroplanes during WW-II. These girls were classy girls-next-door types, and it was all in innocent fun. Unlike our modern-day Hollywood strumpets...errrr... I mean "Starlets". This might be progress, but not all progress is good progress, as they say.

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Katie — Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:10:26 -0000

Wow. Wow! Ok, so I'm a young woman who stumbled on this page completely by accident, and it made my day. I was so glad to see evidence that there are men out there who respect and appreciate and acutally like women. It's given me hope for the future, and I would like to say THANK YOU to AoM.

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Wrathbone — Sat, 02 Jan 2010 23:02:02 -0000

Rita Hayworth...as someone who already goes GAA-GAA over redheads...YIKES!

But as said before, Bettie Page should be included...while she was inclined to show a little more skin than the others, I think she still showed a bit of wild class that is sorely missed.

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Vintage Pinups — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:01:48 -0000

Excellent post. Very Classy and well thought out. Glad I stumbled across your site. Does anyone else think Megan Fox looks a little like Hedy Lamarr?

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Amanda — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:47:02 -0000

These girls had qualities which are totally absent in modern so- called 'pin-ups'... allure, class and mystique. Basically, to sum up, 'We may all like apple pie - but we don't like it thrown in our face!'

One gorgeous lady is conspicuous by her absence however. Where is the incomparable AVA GARDNER??!!!

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Spinning — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:44:49 -0000

Both class and sensuality are states of mind and how one handles themselves in any given situation. If one is consistent in both and follows through with the correct usage of each in every situation, that person will have the respect and admiration of their peers. Someone like the aforementioned Paris, although wealthy was unable to do this correctly in the time she allowed so chose to do the opposite to get noticed by the press and Hollywood.

Unfortunately, were you able to look up the stats on how many young models are being treated for and dying of eating disorders you may get a better handle on just how much pressure there really is on these young women and girls to be an unhealthy degree of thin. This then carries over into the rest of society and girls not yet in their teens complain of being overweight. This is not just a single case or two, it is spreading rapidly, check with your own kids, and in every country where fashion models walk the runways.

I cannot speak for the rest of this site, as I have not as yet perused it, I has done a search for the Gibson Girls and landed here during my foray. I do find it humorous that folks wish to include the Gibson & Vargas Girls in 'Your Grandpa's Babes' I truly like the art work myself, and later on they did get a model to pose as a Gibson Girl, but I have no idea if anyone got a model to actually pose as any of the Vargas Girls. I never knew my Grandpa's, but I would hope they preferred flesh and blood women as I do. I love art work too, but nothing takes the place of a real woman.

Regardless of a woman's stature, be she an amazon. or petite, slender or a beauty of yesteryear, I dare say if she carries herself with allure and confidence and exudes that sense of knowing as only a woman can, there isn't a manly man anywhere that didn't take a second look and wonder!

And as for reading here. women look too, so reading what men think and like would only be natural. And any man that doesn't listen when a woman speaks from the heart, is missing a lot of chances to not only please both of you but to become much closer than you ever imagined. And yes I expect to get a lot of flack for that statement even though it is the gospel truth...lol

I think I first got to know Myrna Loy in 'The Thin Man', and yes she truly should be on this list. One that came much later but that I also thought was a very classy lady was the co-star of 'Hart to Hart', Stefanie Powers. I don' t remember any scandals, but could easily be wrong, and she still seemed to have that kind of class some of the earlier one's had. And try to remember, regardless of what goes on behind closed doors folks, that is between two adults no matter what, unless those pesky camera pests get involved...lol

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zee — Sun, 19 Apr 2009 00:04:50 -0000

This post is disgusting. The rest of this great site teaches great ways to be a man in the traditional sense, but then this one is the opposite. The only woman you guys should ever be looking at in her underwear is your wife at home.

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McJeff — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:34:49 -0000

I know this comment is way after the fact, but where the heck is Liz Taylor?!?!?

C'mon, she's gotta be one of the most beautiful women of all time!!! Those eyes!

Oh yeah, and Kim Novak, too.

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mary — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:29:33 -0000

Fabulous post!

@Dustin- maybe if you were worried what she'd think about the title "Classic Pin-up Girls" you shouldn't have clicked on it to begin with. That's your own fault. What did you think it'd be about, Elephants?

@protesters. I've been delighted with this site, even though I just found it. I can't say much for the history of it, but if this is the most questionable article yet than HALLELUJAH! well freaking done. Wank wank wank wank. That's what I have to say in frustration. Wank. There. Done.

@All- I recommend all of you watch "Sex Madness" (1938) some time to see just how an awkward and tame burlesque show could be to make all the guys somehow crazy sexual maniacs. It's dreadful acting, but a fun "exploitation" film, like "Reefer Madness".

MMmm, I guess Betty is a bit too much for this article? Love Grace, though. Love them all, actually... except I've never been much of a Monroe fan. I'm sorry for any who might be offended by my honesty but I never thought she was much of an actress or singer. No offense to her or her legacy, but for me you need more than a pretty face. Like Hedy Lamarr... Love it.

The new burlesque movement is fun and all, (and very well dressed! Well, when dressed...) but it is a bit stronger than the original.

Yes, I'm a lady who reads this, and since several of the other ladies who do have rather... differing opinions than my own I'd probably better speak my mind to make up for all the ones who also feel as I do but have the common sense to not bother posting.

While it's charming for men to feel unfaithful to their own while looking at porn (vintage or new- though I have loads of the former myself) and thus abstain from it, I personally don't find porn a threat or disgrace. You don't have to watch, you don't have to star in it- that's all a matter of personal discretion, along with many other bedroom-y things that I think are no one's business but one's own and to be dealt with delicately in relationships. There are plenty more mainstream stuff to point fingers at if you're going to complain about antifeminism. However, I think the fem-bots here are missing a key point.

Much of this website hearkens to an older era, when the men wore hats and the porn was softer and not poking you in the eye all the time. Sure, the pin-ups then were mighty racey for the time, and there were the scandals just like today, but isn't it nice to think maybe a woman can feel sexy and empowered before she even takes anything off? And isn't it nice to think men can respect and admire women who are good role models for being sexy while not ....naked?

Besides, you can't tell me the dialogue in these movies wasn't a little classier than the worst of our own TV slush, like the Real World which is nothing like the real world but has a decent soundtrack which keeps people watching. Not to say the time was inherently better all-over because it wasn't. But besides grinding on a dance floor, maybe there are better ways to show how sexy we are, better lines to keep a guy at bay, classy ways to tell someone we deserve everything in the world. And maybe guys should respect us for that. Although, in my experience I've found lots of guys that love a classy broad and have the common sense to respect that when they see it..... if they don't, than you're better off waiting and hunting for somebody who does. Let's encourage that, classiness and style in men and ladies!

Though these were pin-ups then, they could hardly be counted as porn now, any more than classical roman art.

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Manic — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:47:25 -0000

@A -

Heard it all before...come on seriously, it is just Pinup art and headshots.

If you think it is one short step...then that's more of a indication of your habits than what it really is: Pinup.

You cannot deny that during WW2 and Vietnam, soldiers kept images of their wives and girlfriends to keep them going through the hard times. And for those who didn't have that, had Pinup.

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Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:03:07 -0000

I don't know about this post. It doesn't seem to fit in with the rest of the site. I thought the point was to build up the modern man, to help me and the other readers become better men. Looking at Pinups seems to contradict the post Be a Modern Knight: Protecting Your Lady in the 21st Century. I think it is a short step from here to internet porn and other like material, something that a lot of men battle. I just feel disappointed.

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Kunal — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 04:58:51 -0000

lol this is sweet!

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Mitch — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:09:03 -0000

So many greats from the past, including Virginia Mayo. But no Esther Williams or Ingrid Bergman, or even Bridget Bardot; oh well, guess we couldn't get them all in.