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The war going on between the conformists and the individual reveals one clear point: what did nature intend men to look like? For the overwhelming majority of us it became apparent in our teens that our male bodies sprouted hair in certain, if not many, places of the male body to make the strong and impressive fact that we look like we do because we are MEN...not boys anymore, not women!
And what do the gurus of Madison Avenue typically say? Well, based on 'what women want' or whatever flavor of style they wish to impose, we the mustached/go-teed/bearded are frequently squeezed into the box called nonconformist Neanderthal for being so. That's EXACTLY what manly men do. They do not give into popular opinion or culture; they know exactly who they are and are not afraid to flaunt that image (such as that of the Paul Mitchell from the hairstyle world or the legendary Ernest Hemingway).
It happens from time to time that the hairy may ends up the object of desire from others, and the pendulum swings now and again in our favor. However, we manly men don't need a swinging object to tell us that we do not need to test the wind direction to change our image; if anything, the rest of the world needs a strong reality check to find out why they are so easily manipulated into changing their own.
-Bill Alley
Norwich CT
Here's a great article on classic shaving technique:
http://artofmanliness.com/2008/01/04/how-to-sha... [...]
I like the author's writing style - brief, but with meat. Check out Brett McKay's "The Art of Manliness."
@Bob-I'll have to give that a try. Thanks for the tip!
One drawback: no air travel with it, better pack the safeties for such travel.
As far as the Shave Soap / Aftershave I use the fantastical Burt's Bees / Bay Rum line of products, the shaving soap and cologne mixed with water for an aftershave. They discontinued this line over a year ago and I personally cleaned out most of the stock I could track down in New England. It is great stuff. Their new line of men's products is junk.
This all went on until I went into the Army (they didn't let me keep the thing there) and by the time I got out I was too lazy to keep up the ritual needed to shave this way.
If, however, anyone is willing to go through the learning process you'll be able to enjoy the nicest shave there is.
@ Mike- I wish my dad got me a shaving kit like that! That's awesome. Are you starting to get back into the ritual again?
Wow! Four years with the same bar of soap! I'll have to look into that
I did replace the soap from time to time (Old Spice and other suppliers would sell the cakes-and I imagine still do) -- they looked like hockey pucks and fit into a standard shaving mug.
Woah Nellie! You got a typo there. :)
@Bob... I hate aftershaves that doesn't sting!
"The war going on between the conformists and the individual reveals one clear point: what did nature intend men to look like?"
Blah blah blah. It always amazes me how men like you will decry the same pressures that keep women shaving off their very natural hair. If you want to have a face like beast, that's cool. But don't come down on clean-shaven men because we like to kiss our women without leaving a rash on their face. Laziness does not equal manliness.
Or does it?
I learned initially about wetshaving from a digg post suggesting a video series from a user called "mantic59". http://youtube.com/user/mantic59 The trick with a safety razor or a straight razor is multiple passes for beard reduction. 1st pass, with the grain. 2nd pass, with or across the grain, 3rd (and 4th passes if you want) goes against the grain.
The downside to all of this, once you have a really smooth shave anything less, such as a single pass disposable shave, will seem awfully stubbly. So prepare to spend 10 minutes every morning the rest of your life!
sound like fun? :)
Shaving Gel Can (Nivea, 10 inch long) can be bought for $1 to $2 if you strike the right deal at Long's Walgreens Walmart etc. Gillette Mach 3 Turbo cartridges can be got for about $2 per cartridge if you strike the right deal.
One cartridge of Gillette goes about 4-6 months for me, if you don't wipe it after shaving. I shave twice a week. A can of gel goes for about a few years. The cost of cartridge + gel, compared to the monthly rent is negligible. It doesn't even compare to the phone bill.
Finally, i do agree that brushes and lather gives a better experience after shaving. I have a plastic brush working since past 9 years and it is still white as it was. Further, some brushes have Horse's hair as bristles too. But plastic one works well too!
Try this, scrape your elbow or finger with an emery board every day for a month or two and let me know if a callus forms. Saving with a razor does the same thing to your face over time.
(ok, b 4 you flame, I recognize that everyone _IS_ different, I had a roomate and him using any electric shaver was like using a 8' chain saw to cut down redwoods. It just didn't work very well. He also had to use a two throw aways to get the job done right. )
Has anyone tried both the oils and the cake w/ badger brush? How do they compare?
I haven't bought or used a dollop of lather or soap for my shave in at least five years. Hot water. That's all I've used. And disposable .50 Bic razors. No irritation, no smell of glycerin, and no more nicks or cuts than when I used cream. Just a teeth-gritting splash of Old Spice, and I'm done.
The only non-manly thing about using cream is that its messy, which is a common attribute to most manish activities.
If you really want a fancy shave, just go to a barber who still has a barber Pole out front, and get a tradition hot shave with a stropped straight razor. That is manly.
Seriously, though, the straight razor ritual is king. There's a sense of accomplishment. It's a daily reminder that you're alive. A man can hardly shave with a straight razor and not feel more confident.
That, and I hate to give my money away for overpriced disposable cartridges.
That's for limp wristed effetes. I smash one of last night's beer bottles on the rocks near an ice cold stagnant puddle out the back. A great edge and the slime acts a stubble softener.
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The company also has a website where you can spend quite a bit of money on your face.
Introduction to Traditional Wetshaving: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjhIy9rgWQU
I mean, if we were supposed to remove it, then it wouldn't come back again, right?
A lot of great classic shaving tools can be found at http://www.classicshaving.com/
www.bestoou.com
i have 3 expensive electric shavers + mach2, mach3, fusion, shick, etc etc and i don't get a pleasant shave with any of them, i'm gonna go ahead and try the old school way...
A couple of factors to add, I shave my head (going bald, so the blade is not working that hard) only shave every other day, and have a goatee.
I am also one of those men that have never found an electric of any kind that did not rip my face off during use. I have been on the lookout for a decent safety razor for a while now.
hint: for those of you that deign to use canned cream, fill your sink with hot, hot water and drop the can in before you get into the shower.
Rob
Wash your face with warm water. Make sure you remove all the remaining lather/soap.
Then use an aftershave cream or balm, or a gel. Nivea for Men or Gillette after shave gel will keep your skin in better condition than the alcohol-based perfumes.
It's important to moisturize, especially if you're outdoors in the winter. It also keeps us mature men looking a little younger.
Thanks for the tip Ian. I've used Nivea before and liked it.
As for the cost of the cartridges, I've found that I can get 3-4 great shaves out of each Mach-3 by simply shaving once I get out of the shower. I shave once every couple days, so 16 shaves from 4 cartridges @ $8-something a box comes out to roughly .50 cents a shave. If you take care of the handle of the razor, you can easily get many good years out of just one.
Also: I am a manly man and enjoy being clean shaven.
Anyway, as I was reading this I remembered a story about a guy who was seemingly obsesed with freezing things with liquid nitrogen. Car engine blocks, razor blades etc. I couldn't find whatever article it was that I read about him, but I did find something that I think most here will appreciate. It's an article that talks about how just drying your disposable cartridge blades can extend their life by more than double. Here it is:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/yourmone...
Thanks for the link. I saw a similar article a few months ago and started implementing drying my blades. I can vouch for its effectiveness. My blade stay sharper, longer.
I'll have to add a link at the end of the post. Thanks for the suggestion.
I just saw this razor in a swedish auction site, anyone knows how old this might be?
http://www.tradera.com/Gilette_Rakhyvel-auktion...
Check at www.straightrazorplace.com, I bet they can tell you more about it.
While we're on the topic of manliness... DO NOT use lavender if you want to maintain your manliness. Lavender oil mimics estrogen and studies are finding young boys developing breasts because of using lavender in soaps and other things.
some say the effect is negligible in adult males, but I wouldn't take my chances.
http://www.untwistedvortex.com/2008/02/13/a-sha...
I hope you don't think this is spam: I'd be more than willing to write a "real" article on moustache-grooming for Art of Manliness if you think there is an interest.
Regars,
Martin Olsson
On an outing to the local mall I discovered "C.O. Bigelow Premium Shaving Creme". Outstanding stuff, the smell is wonderful and it leaves skin feeling extremely smooth. It's got eucalyptus and it comes in a tube. Like the cremes mentioned on here a small dab on your finger will yield a generous lather. I found it at Bath and Body Works, and refuse to use anything else. Strongly recommended.
Awhile back I saw something on the net about the new fad of safety razors. I sez, what the heck? So I dug out grand dad's old Gillette. Damn! That hurt. Falling for the "cheap can't be good" yuppy fallacy, I ordered one of those fancy import razors and blades. Damn, that still hurt! Back to the disposables.
Here are a few things I've learned over the years. A mug and brush are da bomb! No need for fancy, expensive soaps, though. Wallyworld sells Williams Mug shaving soap at $0.99 a chunk. That's what my dad used and his dad and..... Still as good now as then. With one trick.
When you're buying that soap, drop over an isle and get a bottle of pure glycerin. It has no odor, contrary to a claim in this thread. About once a week put a teaspoon full of glycerin in your soap mug. The effect is remarkable. It makes a lather that looks and feels like whipped cream.
Don't wash out the brush after each shave. That just wastes soap. Just plop it back in the mug. It'll stay wet until the next shave. A chunk of soap lasts me 2-3 months. I can't tell enough difference between badger and boar bristles but then again, maybe I'm not SENSITIVE enough.....
Nothing beats shaving in the shower. Make it the last thing you do before getting out. Let the steam soften your beard during the rest of your shower. While lathering up the shampoo, give your face a good rub. This cuts the oil from the beard and gives it a head start on getting soft.
About disposable razors. The "problem" with them is that they're very inconsistent. In a given package, some will be extremely sharp and some duller'n dirt. I've found that to be the case regardless of brand or price.
I buy the cheapest brand that I can find at the grocery surplus outlet. I rarely pay over a dime a razor. I take one swipe at my face with a new one. If it shows the least bit of pull or discomfort, it goes in the trash. Probably 2/3s of the package ends up that way. But when I find a sharp one, I baby it. It lasts me a month or better. The combo of Williams, glycerin and a steamed beard is super gentle on the blade.
Y'all can mutilate your face all you want with those old safety razors. I'll stick with my carefully selected double bladed disposable.
John
For supplies, a good central location is http://www.classicshaving.com. They have everything you need for manly grooming :).
Several years ago I bought a Dovo straight razor and the necessary accessories online. I used Colonel Conk's Shave Soap(http://www.col-conk.com/) with a badger hair brush. I absolutely love shaving with a straight razor. The shave soap doesn't have an over powering odor, and it goes well with my cologne.
Unfortunately I've since gone to a Mach 3(mainly due to not being a morning person). I can't stand to use a disposable at all, the same goes for an electric(they tremble at the mere mention of my name). I've considered using the old double edge style razors but I've never tried it. I think I will soon be returning to my old methods, hopefully never again to depart.
1. Buy a single pack of mach4s (or whatever brand you prefer) with the handle. Often the with-handle packs are cheaper than just the blades.
2. If you've used the blade a few times and you're worried it's not as sharp as it used to be, run it backwards over your palm a few times. There's no risk of cutting yourself this way, but the rubbing action smooths the blade and coats it with a bit of oil from your skin.
Using these two tips I can spend a grand total of $10 a year on blades.
Do you want us to cut our hands?
Oil from your skin...what a bunch of BS.
Some of the manliest professions require a clean shaven appearance. Soldiers, police officers, and firefighters are all (typically) required to be clean cheeked.
I must say, however, that I am fully bearded at the moment. I went on a camping trip for about a week and didn't feel like lugging shaving stuff with me. I was surprised to hear from female friends that they really liked the beard. I do rigorously maintain the appearance by trimming and maintaining clean cut angles (done with a Gillette Sensor).
I think having a beard is just as manly as being clean shaven assuming you're not just being lazy. Maintain that sucker! Think shampoo, regular edging, and combing. Whatever you do, do it with some dignity and pride!
I made the switch from an electric to a DE razor and have never looked back
Guys don't know what they're missing when they keep shaving with a five-blade rake and crap-in-a-can.
http://futurederm.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/does...
Never had a problem with it, I probably spend roughly $20 every 2 months for blades, so not like it's forcing me to choose between rent and shaving.
Just a note for anyone who's using any aftershave products, if you really care about your skin, look for something that contains minimal (or preferebly NO) alcohol as THAT will dry out your skin and kill newly forming skin cells. (which is exactly the reason you're not supposed to use rubbing alcohol to clean new piercings/tattoos, it'll just kill any healing tissue)
It's pretty common knowledge to not use alochol based aftershaves but there's always people who don't know/think about it, so figured id just leave a post.
the store's website is www.theartofshaving.com
I currently have a Wapienica straight razor. ($20)(new old stock carbon steel Soviet made in the 70's) It was cheap and easy to sharpen, and the shave is just fantastic. Ebay has many razors. Look for shave ready, and check the forums. I use an e-shave badger brush($55), and switch between Poraso soap ($11)and The Art of Shaving Sandlewood cream.($22) I have purchased all of the drug store aftershaves. Old Spice(mostly because I dig that movie it made a cameo in, starring Linda Lovelace.), Brut, Clubman, Lime SEC, and Aqua Velva. I bought them all for under $30. I had to break a 6 year Cerutti Image habit. I took the money I saved and went to a biker bar and drank Tequila all night. the straight is actually a heck of a lot of fun, and has a very Zen-like quality.
Safety razors aside, I've been looking for a good quality straight razor and strop, but I don't know the difference between the different kinds in terms of quality, useful life, etc. I see hundreds of cheap straight razors and strops on e-bay made of stainless steel, carbon steel; and then the strops, which don't have much else on the listing other than length (or maybe if it has leather and canvas).
I don't want to spend a ton to get a super expensive straight razor, but I also don't know if I can trust the ones that go for under $10. What would be the 'specs' and cost of a decent one? What about strops?
@Brett - Have you tried out the straight razor yet?
I've been looking into making a purchase and want to know what the differences are here, both between it and the safety razor, and also within the straight blade market.
Any helpful facts here?
That is awesome! I was just thinking of saying it when I came across this, I did it and made all of my less manly friends wince like girls, I use a safety razor and hot water. thats it. no foofy soaps or astringents or any other metrosexual type stuff.
I wish I could find a really sharp bear claw to use...........yeah thats the ticket!
(http://www.heart.net/~krumholz/history.html)
means that were dream of by the few.
My dad was showing me how to sharpen a safety, 2 sided blade. He took a water glass that was smooth and with out distortion of design. Wetting the blade
and placing it on the inside of the glass with the axis of the blade aimed from top to bottom. He then placed his finger on the blade causing it to conform to the shape of the glass and pushing it around and around and up and down. The only abrasive used was the glass it's self. With little effort the blade was sharp again and dad didn't have those little cut marks all over his face. He had reformed the edge of the blade to get him through until the next time.
Thank goodness things have changed and I don't shave until I am good and ready. Usually in about a week. However I must say that nothing feels as good on my face as the hands of a grandbaby or the hot lather applied by the badger brush.
By the way, I can remember a little girl watching me shave and wish she could see me now.
My neck always broke out, even after I switched to the classic wet shave. It was only after carefully learning which direction the hair grew in which spot did I finally attain that "perfect" shave. the face was easy, but the neck took careful study to get right. Now, my neck never breaks out (unless I'm careless).
Very creamee, so a very SMOOTHE shave
And they smell nice!
And are made by a good company!
And you can take a bath with these soaps and shave all at once.
Nice!
I sure hope I win still. I miss my olden saftey razor.
Thanks.
I happen to have a problem with irritation on my neck, which through the years has severely gotten better. I found letting the weight of a razor shave you and taking your time works best, any stay hairs on my neck (they grow all sorts of messed up ways) I don't insist upon with a razor. Where ever I feel I might get irritation I pluck a few hairs out and for some reason I don't get the irritation. Yes some might find it effeminate but it works so I stick by it.
I can shave both ways, with a mach 3 or a straight razor. I prefer a straight razor mostly because when I shave I am ridiculously ritualistic about shaving. Close the doors, normally take off my shirt, take my sweet ass time and have a smoke during it. Normally will play Bach or Beethoven.
Don't hate on stubble though on days off, I have found that most women are highly attracted to stubble.
And I'm sorry but I found women prefer groomed pubes, not shaven. Yes totally off to bring this up but well taken care pubes is better than a furry mess. I'm going what I've been told and experienced. Way I see it, they take care of themselves as should we.
I'd like to offer some suggestions to help you combat that razor burn. I'm no skin expert but I've been more "into" shaving properly as of the past few months so I can offer some tips based on my research and personal experience.
1. Use a DE (double edge) safety razor instead of a standard cartridge style razor. With a DE you will be passing only one blade against your skin instead of multiple blades. Less blades rubbing up against your skin lessens the chance for irritation. I use a Merkur "Hefty Classic" and highly recommend it.
http://www.classicshaving.com/catalog/item/5229...
DE blades are pretty inexpensive too in comparison to most cartridges.
2. What kind of shaving cream or soap are you using? The irritation may be due to not enough lubrication. If the blade's rubbing up against your skin and there's friction, that could cause razor burn.
3. Are you prepping your beard well? I recommend soaking a medium sized towel in a sink full of hot (not warm) water, lifting it just out of the water and soaking and finally putting your face down into it, covering all of the areas - neck, jawline, cheeks and mouth. Leave it there for about a minute or until the water isn't hot any more. Soak the towel again and repeat. Do this for at least a few minutes. THEN apply shaving cream/soap/gel/whatever you use. If you want to take it to the next level, you would wait about another minute for that to soak in and once more apply the hot towel, then later again before shaving. Might sound like a lot of work but it pays off in the end, resulting in a much easier shave since your whiskers are softer.
4. Use as few strokes as possible.
5. Keep the blades very wet. I shave a pretty small area, then wet the blade continuously.
Some of these are more general tips than specifically related to combating razor burn. I ended up rambling a little bit. Anyway let me know if any of these suggestions help you (or anyone else for that matter).
Hey where's the printable version of this article? Would like to share it.
Thanks
I trim it (the beard itself) with an electric beard trimmer/shaper, to keep it neat, and at a (mostly) even length. I am sad to say that I have been using the same electric trimmer to keep my neck bare.
Well, that ends today. Today, I found my grandfathers old gold plated Gillette Double Edged Safety Razor up in the attic of my grandparents house. It needs to be cleaned I think, but other then that, its in great condition. I plan to go get some blades, a brush, and some soap tomorrow. From here on out, I'll shave my neck, and sharpen/shape the edges of my beard with my grandfathers old razor. Best of both worlds of manliness, if you ask me :)
Just wanted to let readers know to check out http://wwwtheartofshaving.com
Thanks!
Eric