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...well, probably not, but maybe.
@ Raconteur - agreed. I'm not afraid to fight dirty if I haveta. Protect ya neck.
I would also suggest going for his eyes, as it makes it easier to get away quickly while he is temporarily without vision.
"Use a weapon"? "First to break a bottle gets extra man points"? WRONG. You should never bring a weapon into the situation unless you're trained how to fight against it. A weapon can always be wrestled from your grasp and used against you. If you're forced into a brawl, do your best to ensure that it's empty-handed.
"The goal is to maintain balance so you don’t end up on the ground." Actually, this can be the safest place to be, if you know how to grapple. Many fighters actually want to end up on the ground -- And I guarantee you, 90% of streetfights end up on the ground anyway.
Of course, it stands to be reiterated that the best scenario is to defuse the situation and avoid the confrontation altogether.
If you're forced into the fight, the way you handle yourself depends on your level of experience. If you don't know how to defend yourself, then your first priority is self-preservation (or defense of your loved ones) by whatever means necessary. However, if you can manage a brawl, then the morally superior route (and the most manly action) is to subdue your opponent without inflicting permanent damage. Breaking your opponents knees or knocking out a few of his teeth may feel good when you do it, but it's better to bring your opponent into submission. This ends the threat immediately but allows him the opportunity to amend his ways and walk away with a new lease on life. (Not all adversaries take advantage of this, but it is the ethically superior thing to do.) This is not the "gentlemanly fighting" people are alluding to in the comments above -- I would define "gentlemanly fighting" as a duel. Rather, I am arguing for using your prowess, whether inside the ring or outside in the streets, to control the situation and choose, carefully, the level of injury inflicted upon your attacker. The ability to control the fight is the hallmark of the "manly" fighter.
@Aaron-At least you'll have a great story to share in the weeks and months to come.
If you're in an alley at 3 a.m. it's anything goes, although if you're in an alley at 3 a.m. you deserve to have your ass kicked. Nothing good happens after midnight. The only people out at that hour are cops and criminals, and the cops wear uniforms.
In such a case, your primary targets are all on your opponent's centerline - Eyes, nose, throat, solar plexus and groin.
failing that - throw your girlfriend at them, run for cover.
Do not carry one since it can get you more into trouble if you don't have a permit.
Second: Do not use a weapon if you can't fight without it. i knew i guy that always got beet up by some guys that had something against him. one day they tried beating him up at school but he got his hands on a broom and beat them up really good. he had been studying kendo for some time...they left him alone after that but he couldn't carry a shinai or a stick around every time so he took up another martial art.
only use a weapon if it enhances hour fighting skill or if you really need to use one to defend yourself and your loved ones.
you carry weapons on you and you don't even know it:
Keys - put them in your fist. it's called "granny's fist" and it can be deadly
A news paper - roll it up and you can beet someone with it. if they try to grab you hit their wrist...it hurts like hell.
A belt...a piece of leather with metal on an end...need i say more?
A pen can be used to put pressure on soft tissue. the neck and eyes are an obvious choice, so is that point under the ear.
Fingers: poke eyes, try to rip mouth tissue, grab the other guys finger and push then the other way.
I would also suggest taking Krav Maga classes, by far the most effective fighting system in the world.
Take care,
Art Gonzalez
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Not just for the weapon charges alone, You break a bottle wrong and you wind up with a handfull of broken glass... There is a technique to that that can't always be duplicated in the heat of the moment.
1. Try to talk my way out of it. - Self depreciating humor worked most times.
2. Run - Under the philosophy that "he who runs away lives to run away another day."
3. Get beat up - Obviously the least desirable outcome.
I didn't learn to successfully defend myself until I got older, and really tired of that third step.
http://www.kravmaga.com/
- Pick out the smallest guy in the opposing group and jump on him first
- Repeat until all little guys are disabled
- Of the remaining big fella's jump on the least largest one with the most number of your buddies already on him
- Repeat until all the big fella's are disabled
Quick question, where did the picture for the article come from?
For that matter, if you're going out to the bar, never go alone. For one thing, drinking alone is a bad idea in and of itself. For another, never assume there's only one bone head; he's probably out with his equally bone-headed friends. Have backup, you may need it.
1) putting some one in a painful lock does not normally leave marks, so you don't get that whole lawyer with the bruise photo's.
2) many of the trips and throws look more like the other guy is clumsy and fell, again probably will not land you in court.
throwing a punch or a kick is clearly aggressive, so even if you did not start the fight, you look just a guilty. locks and trips are rather innocuous, and hopefully will go un noticed.
the way my old man always said it, '"put the guy on the ground, then walk away so he has time to decide whether to get back up".
I think we went to the same school!!!! The only difference for me was that I switched your steps 1 and 2.
P.S. I liked the piece but I think it's unclear that the bottle recommendation is a joke (although the part about breaking it is amusingly phrased).
Another effective strike is to hit them with an open palm, striking upwards to the jaw (easy knock-out) that way you can say it was in self defense. (you were pushing them)
NEVER turn your back on an enemy - I took a serve beating years ago after i thought I had won the fight - I walked away after knocking the guy down and the guy got back up punched me in the back of the head: resulting in a face plant into the concrete... Not cool.
Last tip - stay sober ;)
@Mooja: The smallest guys are normally the worst guys to try to take - size does not determine the skill of a fighter.
However, I have one critisism (this may have already have already been discussed in the comments, I haven't read them all so I apologise if I'm repeating something someone else has said). In point 5, Defend Yourself, you suggest using a weapon, and this is something I would always advise against. I realise laws vary from state to state, and are obviously different in my home of England, but usage of a weapon, particulalry something with a sharp or jagged edge will always land you in trouble with the law, regardless of circumstanses(although courts will be more lenient if you use something blunt, rather than something that can be seen as a "deadly weapon" like a glass or a smashed bottle). A couple of years ago, friend of mine was attacked by multiple opponents who were older and bigger than him, and in a moment of desperation picked up a glass and hit one of his assailants with it. Although my friend was defending himself, was seventeen at the time and had no previous convictions, because he used the glass, a "deadly weapon" he was seen as the criminal, regardless of circumstances. He was sentences to 21 months in prison last December.
This has been a rather longwinded comment, and I have rambled on too much. The point I am making is using a weapon, especially if you could cut or stab someone with it, is to be advised against as it is more than likely it will land you in far more trouble than you're already in.
Some good stuff in the comments too, but I think people missed the point. This is a tip for someone to use in a bad situation, not for people who want or need to learn to fight.
One point, sometimes you simply cannot avoid a bad situation. Not too long ago I was in a very nice, reputable, normally calm and quiet bar when an entire drunken wedding party stumbled in. They had reserved an adjacent banquet hall and wandered in when it closed. The security officer that was working was not going to be any help either, he was about 60 and maybe 5'7 going 275 I'd guess. Not the picture of intimidation.
Of course some sloshed buffoon comes over and plops down in my wife's seat as soon as she gets up to use the restroom. He was there to order a drink. My wife came back and the guy had no clue what was going on, and insisted that he was going to get his drink. Fine buddy, just get out of my wife's seat. His response was something like "wife? her? husband? ah.. you? well I'm going to get my drink dammit".
My inclination was to just yank the bar seat out from under him and let him knock himself out when his chin hit the bar, but me vs. an entire wedding party seemed like bad odds to me. I just stood there and glared at him and said again that I was her husband and my wife wanted her seat back. He got his drink and then his loud mouth drunken female companion pulled him away saying something about ignoring us because we were just trying to start trouble.
We paid our tab and left after that. And I knew that if the guy started trouble, I'd have been jumped by a bunch of drunks and whooped.
So, my rather long drawn out point is again, you can't always avoid trouble. And you can't always think that any technique you know is going to save you, there is always someone better. And you always have to be ready to face the fact that, yes, you are about to get an ass whooping, just do your best and take it like a man.
I understand part of what you were doing here was to be humorous, but this kind of article is best written without anything that could be misunderstood. A broken bottle is bad on so many levels. It becomes a deadly weapon which will land you in jail on weapons charges, plus, in the heat of battle it is very likely not to break as expected an leave you holding a handful of broken glass.
@ everyone suggesting run away
It's not only non-manly, but it could actually cause you to get hurt worse. Fleeing from an agressor will trigger a response. That response is generally to chase after the fleeing prey (which at that moment, you are in his eyes). It is best to stand up to him, but you have to do that right as well. When trying to talk your way out of the fight, it is EXCEEDINGLY important that you give away NO sign of weakness. Stand at your full height, pull your shoulders back slightly and get a little cocky. Be fair and reasonable about what you say. In the given example from the article, tell the guy that you didn't mean anything with your look and that you were amused by something else going on. Smile slightly and act friendly, but let your body language convey a readiness to defend yourself. If you are at a bar, offer to buy the guy a beer as a peace offering and move on, you might even end up with a bar buddy.
4 guys surrounded me, started pushing me, getting little jabs into my sides and tried stamping on my bad foot. Considering that I had no chance of running away and wouldn't be very good at kicks to the groin of 4 physically more capable people than myself I went straight for the face of the biggest guy, the ringleader. It hit him in the eye, the cheek and the nose and must have killed. Anyway the rest of the pack immediately backed down, muttering vague threats and agreeing with each other about the psycho they'd just met.
I fully expected a call from the police over the next few days since I lived in CCTV Britain and probably had about 5 cameras trained on me at any one time, possibly following me to the car, but I guess the buffoons didn't want anyone to know that a cripple had scared off the whole lot of them.
I guess I didn't really have a point to share, just wanted to share the mentality of some people.
@iamsofakingit: you are toatlly right, get it in your head you are going to get hit, and it willprobably hurt.
@maxwell demon: I have compared the 2 somewhat. I'm more familiar with krav maga. The main diff is one is a martial art and the other is a survival technique. One you can use to subdue, the other is for destruction.
You must then retaliate quickly and with as much force as you can muster. You are going to be scared, so decide when he crosses that boundary you have no choice but to act. And do it with all your might.
Aim for the bits that hurt, nose, eyes, bridge of foot. A kick to the side of the knee can sometimes work. Don't bother with Karate. Bare knuckle fighters beat black belts.
When you have the opportunity, run away.
Fighting is simple. Hit Hard - Hit Fast - Hit Often. Aim to finish the fight within 5 seconds ( the longer the fight the more chance you will get hurt) and if you chose to fight, give 110%. Your life may depend on it.
I never reccomend using a wepon, one way or another it will get you into trouble. A strong "war cry" is great as it helps tense your abs & forces you to breathe. Don't headbut or step into a punch to the head, move sideways & attack into their side (head, knees, kidneys). Also take a body punch front on, into the tensed abs. a hit to the side can easily rupture your kidneys if low or break a rib if high.
Remember, you will get hit and it will hurt. Walk away if you can.
Speaking of felonies, weapons? Really? If you're outnumbered OK but you run a serious risk of hurting someone enough to catch a charge if it's one-on-one. Besides, shouldn't a man know how to defend himself with his hands, especially against a lone opponent?
It helps that I'm not a guy who starts fights, if you couldn't tell from the first paragraph. Also, it's really hard for other people to bother me. True self-confidence is good like that.
Any quality woman that you're with won't want you to get into a fight unless there is absolutely no alternative and they mean ABSOLUTELY no alternative. I like dating attractive women (imagine that) and if they can't handle being hit on by creeps and drunks by themselves, I don't want them. Besides, isn't it more embarrassing for them when she shoots them down and I just sit there and watch them crash and burn? As long as they don't touch her or do something stupid, it's great entertainment for me.
Still, it's a good idea to learn and practice some type of self-defense, even very basic types. Often if you show that you can defend yourself even a little bit your attackers will back down. What's also good about this is that self-defense training (martial arts, boxing, etc.) is wonderful exercise and it's rarely boring. It'll help you stand with confidence in front of an aggressor, which is often a great help in diffusing a situation.
Speaking of felonies, weapons? Really? If you're outnumbered OK but you run a serious risk of hurting someone enough to catch a charge if it's one-on-one. Besides, shouldn't a man know how to defend himself with his hands, especially against a lone opponent?
It helps that I'm not a guy who starts fights, if you couldn't tell from the first paragraph. Also, it's really hard for other people to bother me. True self-confidence is good like that.
Any quality woman that you're with won't want you to get into a fight unless there is absolutely no alternative and they mean ABSOLUTELY no alternative. I like dating attractive women (imagine that) and if they can't handle being hit on by creeps and drunks by themselves, I don't want them. Besides, isn't it more embarrassing for them when she shoots them down and I just sit there and watch them crash and burn? As long as they don't touch her or do something stupid, it's great entertainment for me.
Still, it's a good idea to learn and practice some type of self-defense, even very basic types. Often if you show that you can defend yourself even a little bit your attackers will back down. What's also good about this is that self-defense training (martial arts, boxing, etc.) is wonderful exercise and it's rarely boring. It'll help you stand with confidence in front of an aggressor, which is often a great help in defusing a situation.
stay safe!
no really.
that is what my mom told me about fighting.
Then get packed.
Then stay away from bars/clubs.
There's plenty of people in those places you should avoid.
Stay out of them
However, should I find myself in a serious 'social encounter', here's what I would do:
If necessary, draw gun, back away slowly. Do not fire warning shot. The fact that you are retreating is necessary in court if the worst happens. Get yourself gone!
Very few tough guys will take on a gun, especially if you look like you know what you're doing.
Forget the war cry. It takes your mind off your retreat.
Get in your car and leave immediately once the threat is over. Don't hang around to gloat or chat. Leave. It's probably not a good idea to go home if the perps know where you live. Wait a day or two somewhere else in case of reprisals
IF YOU HAVE TO FIRE, fire twice and aim low. Most hurried shots miss too high.
Remember these words: "Your honor, the man threatened me, I feared for my life. As I was leaving, he came toward me and attacked. I discharged two rounds in his direction."
EXERCISE YOUR RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT. Only a judge can compel you to answer questions. Consult your attorney at the earliest convenience even if not arrested. The perps may cook up a story later to try and get you arrested. Tell your man first and get his advice.
DISCLAIMER Remember, these are suggestions that I follow. I do not encourage others to take these suggestions as to the course of action that they should follow. Only you can decide what to do.
"A .38 beats a full house"--Jesse James
"God gave fat guys guns" -- John Goodman-- "Sea of Love"
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"Don't bother with karate. Bare knuckles beat black belts".
Many of the posts here are absolutely hilarious.
Seriously, if you are not just scared half to death, do you really want to break someones knee over a bullshit brawl? It is ridiculously easy to do, never heals right again, and the guy will limp for the rest of his life. If you can't fight and desperately need to get away, okay, but what kind of attack besides life and death rise to the need to permanently maim someone? If you've never actually broken a bone on another person, you will be amazed at how sickening it is when you feel and hear it.............
Go find a Kyokushin dojo and tell them all about your bare knuckles beating their black belts.
;-)
In regards to taking a punch, if possible, don't take one at all. I suggest dodging. A punch can open a man up. If he punchs with the right hand. slide to your left his right, move out of the way of the punch and get in close, perfect position for that knee to the groin or a few good punches to the gut.
MENTAL READYNESS.
now you cant really teach anyone to be tough-you can be as ripped-up with muscle as you like and have black belts in various martial arts....BUT if you cant handle yourself and your adrenaline while in a dark street corner, fist to fist with someone who is quite possible willing to KILL or seriously injure you.......you will still lose.
i am now 20 and when i was younger i did take a few beatings because i simply didnt know how to handle myself, but now i no longer "freeze up" at the prospect of being hit, and get in there with some simple ballistic moves like elbows and headbutts.
unfortunately, thats the only way you can truly learn to be a street fighter.
years ago, i simply didnt have it in me to "just get in there and do it" but i learned that out there, noone is gonna be gentle with ya so you might as well not worry about "escalating the violence".
and finally, when it comes to technique-just use simple, dirty moves and try and get into close quarters.
Never use a weapon you can only get in serious trouble,
if you cannot fight run get out of there asap
As for taking a punch go with it to minimize damage, if you go into it and he connects good night, you have all your force and his force colliding instead of some of his force hiting you.
My advice if you cannot run, Hit him and do not stop hitting him neck, groin, or nose work best if ther eis more than 1 hit the largest one of them the rest will be in shock
I'm usually the guy who is there to back up my dumbass friends when they start shooting their mouths off... they start jawing and right before things get tight, I'll step in and ask the other guy if he really is interested in a tussle... It usually helps that the guys I hang out with (for the most part) are all former college athletes like me and can take care of themselves... but probably more importantly, LOOK like they can take care of themselves, so it usually isn't an issue.
1. Don't fight bouncers. They are sober. They have other bouncer friends. They don't care about "winning" they just want to remove you, and don't care what furniture and fixtures hit your face on the way out.
2. Most males really really don't want to fight, they want to posture. They love it when the bouncer shows up and they can back down with honor. Fuck honor. Be a craven lickspittle in a bar fight situation, apologize and cower and make the fight go away. And running away is a very very good ideal, there are very few things in life worth getting damaged for, and they aren't found in bars.
2b In a prison situation the opposite is true, if you don't react violently and insanely, you will pretty shortly find yourself with a sore bum. Just saying.
2c Girl fights are a bouncer's nightmare. Not only do they not care a damn about honour and so on, they actually want to kill each other. Secondly, they almost certainly have a boyfriend pleased as punch to be fought over, who will take any manhandling of either of his (probably soon to be ex)girlfriends very seriously. With friends.
3. Do not try for the balls. They are amazingly hard to hit, and most males have a bunch of protective reflexes that are extremely hard to overcome. True, it is a game winner if you can do it, but it is very very difficult.
4. When looking for weapons, distance weapons are the best. Fending off the dude with a chair a la a lion-tamer is about the smartest move you can make; because eventually, in most situations someone (like a bouncer or three or the cops) will intervene. Actual weapons, things like bats and hockey sticks, actually leave you very vulnerable. And can lead to serious criminal charges. Any weapon, hold onto it like crazy, you really don't want it taken away from you. You really don't.
5. Throw the first punch. Sorry to say this, but watching many many fights, the guy that stops the posturing phase and lays on some sudden and unanticipated pain and damage, almost always wins. If you can't back out, can't run away, go postal, as soon as you can.
6. Going postal is actually a good strategy. Get in there close and violent, you will take a lot of damage but it will be in the initial adrenaline fueled phase when you can't feel it, and the surprise factor really helps. The odds are that a guy that wants to fight with you is probably more skilled at fighting that you are, fencing with him is a serious mistake.
7. Your single most effective hitting surface is your elbow, not your fist. You will do more damage with your elbow, and receive a lot less, than with your fist.
8. Your second most effective hitting surface is your foot. A good kick to any major muscle mass will temporarily freeze it, making it much easier to run away, or if you can't, to do further damage.
9. Once a fight starts, don't fuck around. Shut your yap, don't circle and spar, lay into the dude like a maniac. It is actually your best chance at survival.
10. Don't knife fight. Someone pulls a knife, run like hell, dodge, weave, anything to put something or some distance between you and that knife. Knives are very very dangerous and nobody but a martial arts master, if that, can avoid very random very serious damage from them.
11. I'm sorry, but a war cry is stupid. If the dude you are up against knows anything at all about a fight, has been in more than one, your war cry will have about the effect of a cream pie dropped on a marshmallow from about an inch away. Basically, in the adrenaline rush of a fight, you are pretty much deaf anyway.
12. Oh, and getting angry, really really angry? Nothing but good. Adrenaline is your friend.
So after that incident I thought that I had to learn how to fight, so I don't get assaulted again..
BTW, I'm not racist, the guy just made up that I was looking at him funny, cuz he wanted a fight...
one in the nose one in the temple if that dont hurt em them damn!!
Listen if your gonna get in a fight then its gonna happen, always keep a good stance as to not fall over. always keep yours eyes on your oponent, best thing to do is if he throws a common right hand then kick him in the gut. jump up and elbow him in the face. or try and block the punch take your right hand and place it to the left side of his head, wrap around into a headlock and knee the crap outa him, or kick his thighs, not straight on but do a turning shin kick. it will make him unable to wwalk if done effectively. if hes up[ in ur face grab the back of his head and headbutt the hell out of his nose. if he goes to spear tackle then lean forward and grab his head and push straight down either to the floor or into your knee. other useful things u can do is a side kick to there kneecap (onl if his leg is straight) it will snap it instantly... you canm do the same with an elbow... when ever you get in a fight speak up. yell!!! im gonna kill you or something to show your anger. never back down because people always have it on there phones after. if you on the ground try and get up and kick them or get on top and punch them or get them in a sleeper hold and knock them out.... the MOST effective thing you could ever do is get them ion a firm headlock, have a wide stance for balance and use whatever you have left to knee, punch, elbow or whatever you can do to knock him out. always keep your hands up unless your experienced or fast. play off the jab or use youlegs which are effective against reach. keep applying the pressure dont give them the advantage to regain themselves and attack...
Im sorry but you probably you never were in a fight on the street. Ground is THE LAST place you want to end up...As soon as you are on the ground there is nothing that can prevent his buddies to stomp you...and if you believe that a scum picks up a fight with you when it is alone then you are deluded! i dont know where you have the 90% business. as i told...as soon as somebody is on the ground he is a good target for stomping. so yeah my main objective in the fight is to put HIM on the ground and NOT go down there with him...As soon as he is down its up to your consciousnes and fantasy what you can do with him ;)
And you should never fight for submission in a streetfight. You can if you work as security or bouncer but if its a fight against some street scum and you cant escape (which is absolutly correctly in your post - defuse the situation OR run away if there is nobody you have to protect) then just try to do as much damage as possible before he can. Yeah you have to think about legal stuff and it depends on the stituation how far you go but if there are many of them or he has some kind of weapon you can basically do anything to him. Watch for witnesses though and be sure they will be on your side.
but the best thing while maybe not so manly is to try and avoid it at any means. Talk it down, talk to the bouncer if you are in a club or somewhere where they are, leave the place or simply run away if you can.
best regards
1. THERE ARE NO RULES IN THESE TYPES OF FIGHTS. USUALLY THE DIRTIER, CLEVERER, AND LOWEST MAN WINS. I have busted up a black belt simply because i tossed my drink in his face followed by a disastrous sucker punch. NEVER THINK THAT BECAUSE YOU ARE SKILLED YOU WONT GET YOU BUTT KICKED. I am an amateur boxer with over 65 fights and that is nothing on the street. In fact SOME MARTIAL ARTS MAY GET YOU KILLED IN A FIGHT.
2.IF YOU CAN TALK YOUR WAY OUT OF IT PLEASE DO THAT. AVOIDING A FIGHT IS BETTER THAN WINNING A FIGHT. However watch yourself whle you speak. the guy you are speaking to might take this as an opportunity to pounce on you or one of his buddies sneak up from behind and bust you head open with a bottle or something.(Trust me I been there)
3.RUN AWAY. Honour DOSENT EXIST in fights. BECAUSE THERE ARE NO RULES. Trying standing against two cutlass or knife wielding dudes because you think you are trained in some exagerated fighting system and you will be in for a RUDE SUPRISE.
4.NEVER TAKE THE FIGHT TO THE GROUND. You may be overwhelming your opponent with your slick Ground and Pound game, but that won't count for shit when his bonehead friends begin to STOMP THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS out of your stupid ass and KICK YOUR FACE IN.
5. IF YOU ARE DRUNK DO NOT FIGHT. your punches will not be going as fast as you think they are and then ..............well you know the rest.
6. IF YOU ARE TAKING SELF DEFENCE COURSES TRY SOMETHING LIKE MUAY THAI or THAT Israeli Shit. avoid sport karate and others. STREET BONEHEADS AND PUNKS can take an awful amount of punishment and still fuck you up. I have seen black belts HAD THE THEIR ASSES HANDED TO THEM DREADFULLY.
7.ALWAYS HIT FIRST. In most street fights the person who lands the first blow wins because it is usually followd by a rapid succession of blows and you will be on the floor nursing you wounds before you even get your fighting stance in position.
8.WHEN YOU HIT HIT TO IMMOBILIZE YOU OPPONENT. Whats the point in punching a guy only to have him recoil and STAB YOUR DUMB ass.
9.THE LAW. You don't wanna get fucked up but you don't wanna go to Jail or Pay the fine. I have done both. Judged by Twelve rather than carried by Six. Im still here am I not?
In the end i think that fighting is a rather despicable thing that should be avoided at all costs. however if you are backed into a corner make sure to FUCK YOUR ENEMY UP. There is no honour in being DEAD or CRIPPLED.
It's better to walk away looking like a pussy than not walking away at all.
Dave on June 12th, 2008 7:33 pm
“Don’t bother with karate. Bare knuckles beat black belts”...........
Go find a Kyokushin dojo and tell them all about your bare knuckles beating their black belts.
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This is the most ignorant comment of all hands down.
does this ignorant know about karate kyokushin ?? , sure not because he's an ignorant and a sissy too, I dare you to go to a karate kyokushin dojo and fight anyone , any student. they will fracture your sorry ass, kyokushin is the hardest , toughest of all karate styles , full contact, bare knuckes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD2Nmk0JiFk
REad about it ignorant(Dave) before posting your BS again.
by the way you wouldnt last very long , and iam not talking about a fight ( you'll be in a wheelchair) , am talking about the training .
A cardboard cover surrounding 600 pages of knowlege.
I was in a short (Incredibly short) brawl a year or so ago, I was carrying my textbook on my way to my car, and a student wanting to start a fight punched me in the back of the head. Immediately, I swung around and dealt a two-handed textbook blow to the side of the head, colliding with an almost comically loud crack, sending him sprawling and ending the fight right there. I continued on my merry way, and he never went near me again.