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I agree with all but two of the bad dads-
Al Bundy may have not have been very happy with where he was, but he sticks to his commitment. His wife and kids spend all his money, and show very little love to him or remorse for their actions. It would've been much easier for him to just leave, but he still, although begrudgingly, provides for his family.
I wouldn't call him a good dad, but definately not one of the worst.
Jack Bauer-
I'm not quite sure I agree with this one. In season one he was a bad dad, but he did put his own life on the line to save his daughter (who got into trouble by her own actions), and killed the woman who killed his wife. He is man enough to put his family on the back burner for his country. That, while at times bad for his family, helped millions of others, and indirectly saved his family multiple times.
Jack's dad on lost was pretty bad as well, along with sun's dad. The show just has issues with fathers I guess.
Also, charlie from Lost would be great example of a good dad.
Besides that, great list!
Yeah I had similar thoughts on Jack Bauer. It is admirable in many cases to put your family on the back burner to serve your country. When compiling the list I was thinking along the lines of "who would you want to be your dad?" I have to say it would be hard to have Jack as your dad. Many men serve tours of duty, but then return home. Their family is never in danger, and when the soldier is home, the family can be assured of their safety. Jack's fam doesn't/didn't enjoy any of those assurances. That's a lot of stress.
And it is not because of his 5 kids...4 girls and a boy...just like we do.
I also think Mrs. Huxtable is great!
- Mike Seavers, Growing Pains
- Steaven Keaton, Family Ties
- Jack Arnold: The Wonder Years
Dad from the 90s:
Hal from Malcolm in the Middle (ok, he was a little childish. But, he wouuld do anything for his family.)
Andy Taylor +1
Seriously though, great post and very timely.
@Chad-Uncle Phil is an excellent addition. He kept it real and was a good dad both to his biological kids and as a father figure to Will.
I believe King of the Hill is actually set in the City of Arlen, located in Heimlich County
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@troban- Pa was on the best dad list, but I wanted to keep each list down to 10 dads. He's a good one!
@Eric- I forgot about That 70s Show. He's another good dad. I agree.
@ChrisB- Anyman who raises a child with super powers to use those powers for good deserves to be on the list. Good edition.
@Ben- By "all the corrections that have been listed" , do you mean the two that Josh and Chad pointed out? If you expect perfection, go somewhere else. If by corrections you mean people we didn't include on the list, well that's the point of the comments- for people to discuss the dads they think should and shouldn't be on.
If Homer is a good dad then so is Al.
Also Randy Marsh from South Park should be in here somewhere.
Now that was a bad man.
Seriously.
Sorry to get off topic everyone. . . carry on.
Great post by the way, Kate.
#1: Ben Cartwright – Bonanza (TV series 1959-1973)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0052451/
“The Cartwright's thousand-square-mile Ponderosa Ranch is located near Virginia City, Nevada, site of the Comstock Silver Lode, during and after the Civil War. Each of the sons was born to a different wife of Ben's; none of the mothers is still alive. Adventures are typical western ones, with lots of personal relationships/problems thrown in as well.”
[Quote] Ben: (to Luke Barnes) “Forgotten? The only worthwhile thing a man leaves when he dies are his children. What he was lives on in them. When people look at my sons, I want them to remember me well. How are they gonna remember you?” ~ Ben Cartwright to Luke Barnes, Mirror of a Man, Episode Number: 127, Season Num: 4, First Aired: March 31, 1963
#2: Daniel Boone – "Daniel Boone" (TV series 1964-1970)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057742/
“Frontier hero Daniel Boone conducts surveys and expeditions around Boonesborough, running into both friendly and hostile Indians, just before and during the Revolutionary War.”
#3: Andy Taylor – The Andy Griffith Show
#4: Luca McCain – "The Rifleman" (TV series 1958-1963)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0051308/
“Lucas McCain can fire a round with his specially modified Winchester in three-tenths of a second. That and his resolve enable him to help the sheriff maintain order while raising his son Mark on a ranch near North Fork, New Mexico.”
#5: Ward Cleaver – Leave It To Beaver
Just think of some of Alan's best moments, it's hard not to. When he took his son Corey after an argument to the hardware store where his own father had mopped the floors everyday until he died so that he could have a better life, and that he was "Damn proud of that." Or the time when Sean, Corey's friend, comes to the Matthews house drunk after the death of his father and discovery of his non existent mother. Alan tells Sean that he is always welcome, and even offers to adopt him, to spite the fact that the Matthews are strapped for cash. Finally the great line when Alan says to the leader of a local cult trying to assimilate Sean: "Sean Hunter is the best friend my kid has ever had, and I would kill...to protect that. Not to mention the other great humorous and fatherly moments.
June Cleaver to her husband Ward: "Don't you think you were a little rough on the beaver last night?"
- mother was murdered by the woman Jack had an affair with.
- she was kidnapped several times (by terrorists and a survivalist) and stalked by psycho father she worked as a nanny for.
- she was hunted by a mountain lion.
- father chops off her boyfriend's hand (to save his life).
Yet after her nanny gig, she somehow has the qualifications to go work at the super-secure government agency with her father.
Addendum: Red Foreman is another good choice for many of the same reasons as Jack Arnold, however, Red is more comical in nature; his paranoia and temper are amplified from Jack's, while his concern for his family and respect for others are watered down.
Come to think of it, I wish Wilson had been the dad on "Home Improvement." Now THERE is a positive role model.
American Dad!'s Stan Smith is a better dad than he is.
Other TV dads got annoyed or kinda/sorta angry with their kids and this resulted in lessons taught and punishments given, but it seemed mostly contrived.
Maybe it was Griffith's acting or the writers pushing a bit further than most others, but when Andy was mad at Opie, you believed it and felt scared for the little guy. Sure, it was always reigned-in and channeled into something productive, but the conflicts between them always seemed more natural and real -- more like my own dad -- than any of the others.
Anyway, I feel that *at least* grandpa Simpson should have made it in the lousy dads' list.
John Locke's dad. That was a funny add.
Although I am a huge Simpson's fan, I think he would be average at best.
And besides, there should be a least one good Dad who votes Democrat :)
Point 2, in the episode where Bundy and family find themselves playing football against the Devil, Al is offered an out where he gets to go back and live his dream... if only he'd sacrifice the family by dropping his own pass. Guess what, he comes up with the pass.
All in all, I think Al's doing a fairly good job with the hand he was dealt. A loser for sure, but to say the character is without redeeming qualities? That's a bit too far.
I also agree that Tim Taylor should have been in there too. He made klutz mistakes sometimes, but always ended up on the right side. His decisions were based on how to better the family.
I think that Paul Hennessey from "8 Simple Rules" deserves a definite shout-out for TV's best dads. He was a stay at home/work from home dad, totally invested in his kids, not a bumbling idiot, competent, and absolutely trying to do the very best for his family.
and i love the arrested development nod! job is my favorite horrible father! "i've made a huge mistake"
nice work!
Peace,
Sonny
Michael Bluth (Jason Bateman): Tries to be a good and caring father to his child (even when he fails, for such is comedy), instills in his son the value of hard work, and overall tries to be an asset to his family.
-NJJ-
Great add!