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the last part should probably be "ever play in"
Just do it in private.
It's a Wonderful Life brings me to tears without fail.
You guys should do a post on George Bailey.
We should cry when are paradigms are revealed to have feet of clay. When are illusions are revealed for what they are. There's a lot of that going on right now.
11. At your daughter's wedding - Any man who does not melt when walking his little girl down the aisle to give her away to another good man has no heart and no soul.
http://arabaquarius.blogspot.com/2008/06/crying...
(hehe, all in good fun)
I would agree (seriously) only really with the limitation of "when others are looking to you to be strong." Expressing emotion is a wonderful gift. I used to be pretty unemotional (on the surface) much of the time; now, a song can have me react.
ET ;-)
Acceptable Situation addition:
- Getting kicked in the nuts (if you don't cry, you have nothing there)
- Cutting an onion
I'm a strong believer that a good cry is all well and good --- so do it privately. I think there are times when being strong, for yourself and those around you, trumps your own need to "let it out".
Sometimes being a man is about more than what "you want."
I'd also like to add Big Fish, the Tim Burton movie with Ewan MacGregor and Albert Finney. Saw that after my dad passed away, and it nearly killed me. Fantastic movie.
I also cried like a little girl in pigtails when I watched my son being born--which is fortunate, because it kept me from passing out.
My brothers and I watched these movies about a million times with our dad growing up, and that moment just reinforced some of the values he tried to teach us: hard work, perseverance, and love of family.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-OFCDNa5diQ&feat...
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It stopped me from making a huge mistake, because we were together for another two years. Dating him made me a better woman and ultimately a better wife.
That was the only time I've ever known him to cry, and we are still very good friends. Granted, that's a situation that depends on the couple involved, but his tears completely unmade me.
I would have to argue number 1, 1. The death of a loved one. , only because 2. When those around you are looking to you as a source of calmness and strength. is one of the most important things about being a man.
One last tip, IF Men only need to absolutely cry, it should never be a Bitch-Cry, but only a manly, shed-tears, type of cry.
Otherwise, a fabulous guide. Well done.
Another movie for the list: "Frequency" -- probably the closest thing to a chick flick for guys (particularly fathers & son). On the other hand, there's several on the list I'd probably drop off.
Armageddon
The end always gets me. You know the part with the patch and the switcheroo. Yeah.
I always tear up while watching any movie that has a 21 gun salute and they play Taps. My Grandfather was in the Korean and Vietnam wars and while he made it home safely, many of his buddies didn't. I always flashback to his funeral when I hear the gunshots and the bugle playing. He's been gone for a little over 10 years now and I can remember it like it was yesterday. I cry every time and I don't care who is around to see it.
-Mark
A couple weeks ago I happened to catch an episode of Hell's Kitchen. One of the contestants, a rather portly fellow, must have cried at least three times during the episode. He spent the rest of the time looking like he was about to cry. The sight of his turkey neck waddling as he boohooed through every setback or victory, no matter how minor, was truly sickening. Just tonight while watching Casino on Bravo, they showed some snippets of their reality shows, and it was awash in grown men crying like old ladies.
I think all the aforementioned examples of when it's ok to cry are perfectly acceptable. But I think our society has neutered men to the point where even the slightest notion of emotional turmoil turns some into complete pansies. I think part of being a man is knowing how to hold back tears, especially when there's a camera on you.
I did the former when my Grandpa died...publicly and without embarrassment. When my Mother died I hid in a room by myself and cried my eyes out. Then I went into the bathroom, cleaned myself up, and went out and was strong for my sister.
I did the later when I saw my son, daughter, and both my granddaughters for the first time. I will most likely get choked up when I walk my daughter down the aisle and give her away, but I won't cry.
To show emotion is not sissy or soft, it's manly and it shows you care, and caring is a good thing. Emotions should be held in check as much as possible, but sometimes it's just not possible.
Crying at a movie is borderline, but I must admit, I cried while watching some of the movies listed. Reading a good story gets me sometimes, too.
I would say, for the most part, if you're going to cry, do it so as few people possible notice.
@30 days-So true. Nothing is worse than the sentimental crying drunk.
@Wrathbone-Good point. I think a point that can be added to the "don't list" is "don't cry so often that people can't take you seriously." Also, the more you cry, the less meaningful your years become. People start thinking, "oh great, so and so is crying again." But if your tears are rare, when you do cry, people know something truly significant has occurred.
@Greg-I tried to make that distinction when I said, "Just as there is a balance between releasing some man tears and turning into the kind of blubbering mess that makes everyone feel uncomfortable."
TV show list: Many episodes of Third Watch ,7th Heaven and Touched by an Angel, some episodes of some CSI show, pilot episode (1+2) of Earth 2 (5 minutes from the end) , series finale of Angel ("would you like me to lie to you now")
1. Season 4 finale of House
2. Season 3, episode 14 of Scrubs
3. The Episode of Futurama where Fry thinks he's going to get his dog back.
Think about it. He gave up at the end and succumbed to his destiny. That is the saddest moment in any man's life. When you actually believe you have no control over the outcome of your own life. Then the act of succumbing is what made him help dictate his future.
Priceless and Farrell should have been nominated for SOMETHING for his performance...
When you son leaves for war.
I wasn't quite expecting my own reaction, but there you have it. ..bruce..
helped him (well, both of us) through it. Tatianna is the cat's name, and the name of the book -- great love story about the bond and unconditional love between owner and beloved pet., and how to cope when the pet dies.
Just might make a man cry again...
To the OK list, you MUST add:
11. At your daughter’s wedding - Any man who does not melt when walking his little girl down the aisle to give her away to another good man has no heart and no soul.
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Total co-sign on that one
On the other hand, I had another ex who cried anytime he thought I was mad at him, and at every little thing that wouldn't even have made me least bit upset. That was definitely a turn-off, not to mention downright annoying.
I understand that this is a blog geared towards being "manly," and crying isn't considered "manly." But, really, isn't it more manly to be secure with yourself and not worry about what society says is right? Men are human beings, and, as human beings, it is perfectly natural for them to cry. It's a way to express incredibly strong emotions--whether frustration, happiness, loneliness, etc.
My boyfriend never cries and it is the only thing about him that drives me crazy! Your wife/girlfriend/whatever does not need you to be "a rock." Rocks are chunks of earth without minds or hearts or feelings. They just need you to be there for them, whether you're crying or not.
Most people frown upon the man cry where I am from, when it comes to movies or anything other than a death in the family. This reassures me that I am not a lame ass and I'm a man.....that can cry. :)
Thanks guys for another awesome post.
I found out my father was in the hospital and I've found myself pretty choked up about it--direct family member's and dire news tend to have an immense emotional impact on me. Specifically in this case I was unable to contact anyone that could update me for hours--adding to the problem is the fact that I don't live very close to home currently.
Just felt the need to comment since this hit so close to home so recently.
I concur with the suggestion of two movies being added to the list. The first was Armegeddon - what father who has daughters couldn't relate to the see of Bruce Willis having to break his promise to his girl (for a noble reason)? And the second is the "Green Mile." That movie wasn't just a tear jerker, they backed up the tow truck and pulled them out.
Examples:
Amazing Grace
Lee Greenwood - God Bless the USA
Rodney Atkins - I've Been Watching You
I'll be Home for Christmas (when you're not home for Christmas)
America the Beautiful (Ray Charles' version)
I would agree with Aaron as well. I can remember the first time I heard the words by Lee Greenwood, "I'd gladly stand up, next to you and defend her still today" and those of us listening, stood up. WOW!! What a moment!
And the song, "I Can Only Imagine" by Mercy Me, has evoked many tears when I contemplate what it is that I will do when I stand before the one who died for me.
If it wasn't okay to cry watching that, then it never is.
And again he cried when we saw I Am Sam - because he's a single dad.
Blood Diamond
When Solomon is brought to the refugee camp and his wife tells him the rebels took his son.
The speech he gives to his son when he (the son) pulls a gun on him.
The end, at the conference.
Armageddon
President's Speech and world footage montage (a classic, and the soundtrack by Trevor Rabin is excellent)
When the shuttle Independence crashes.
When Max is blown away and they think all hope is lost and Harry (Bruce Willis) tells Houston to prepare the world for bad news.
When Harry switches places with AJ (Ben Affleck). AJ protests, saying that it's his job. Harry calls AJ his son.
Harry's last talk to Grace (Liv Tyler)
When they return to earth and Grace runs toward him.
Whew, glad to that that off my chest...
1. Death of a loved one (close, not your distant cousin that you didn't like anyway)
2. Death of pet (ONLY if it is a dog)
3. Birth of children
4. Movies with father/son or sports themes, maybe dog themes if you really love dogs (Rudy, Field of Dreams, and Old Yeller are examples. However, this should be done in private, not in front of your wife/girlfriend)
Crying at the alter or as your propose? That is horrible. That is what the woman is supposed to do! What if you start blubbering like a fool and she just stands there and is excited? You look like a loser.
Chuck Wicks Song Stealing Cinderella. My daughters only 3ys old but it sure makes you realize they will not be kids forever.
Your little story of Derek Redmond got me right there..
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truthfully, there really usnt a hard and fast rule on what is acceptable to cry too.. each person has his triggers.. though i do agree with with most of the acceptables listed..
i am so with you bro they should have added that one to the list when a girl of course a girl u really loved and been through a lot together dumps you or stuff like that i tell you that because i am one of theme...... =(
I agree. I recently broke up with my boyfriend because he neither cried nor ever got jazzed up about anything. Interacting with him was like poking roadkill with a stick and expecting it to do something. On paper he was a "good" guy, but in real life he was like a robot...what's the point of even being in a relationship if you can't share your joys and miseries with someone? You might as well just be single!
So guys, please. Try to strike a good balance. Enthusiasm is sexy, too.
Socrates met his end in a very manly way. His last words to his friend was
to offer a "cock" to be sacrificed to the god of healing. His "disease" was
cured only by death.
One movie I cried at was "Untamed Heart (1993)" when the guy with the bad heart died. I remember because it happens toward the end of the movie. Directors didn't give enough time to gain control and composed oneself before the hall lights come on. Felt embarrased as hell. I wasn't alone in the crowd.
along with others in the audience
Mr Holland's Opus - where they play his music for him.
and this one I am embarassed about...
Star Wars III: Revenge of the Sith. I cannot get through the Order 66 scenes without tears on my cheeks.. For someone who grew up with Jedi's and also having read all the comics, all the books related, to see them butchered by their own... Stupid bloody movies... One day I will get past that bit...
Firstly- and I defy anyone not to not only cry big man-tears for the whole last part of the film, but also to be in a bit of a funk for a good few days afterwards, and get choked up at the thought of it- Grave of the Fireflies. This one should definitely be added to your list. It's a Japanese animation from Studio Ghibli who brought you the likes of Spirited Away, but it's not at all fantastical. It's just about a boy and his little sister in Japan in WWII and it is too sad to think about. Apparently they play it once a year in Japan on national crying day.
Rather less excusable is crying, as I did, at the end of the recent Peter Jackson version of King Kong, just at the injustice of it all... That poor ape was an innocent I tell you...
I am a crier. I have lost loved ones; have been hurt so many times and in so many ways in my 42 years of Life. My very Best Friend, Jesus Christ has comforted me through it all. He has also wept with me and for me. There is a Bible Scripture that plainly tells us to " rejoice with those who are rejoicing and weep those who are weeping." Romans 12:15
If you need to cry....cry; but remember not to purposely make others cry.
If your crying keeps you from performing in a life and death situation...save it for later. You can do this!
If someone is depending on you to be strong...then be strong. Cry later.